Return-Path: Received: from mxsf32.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.156] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 592109 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:18:16 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.225.28.156; envelope-from=cardmarc@charter.net Received: from mxip03.cluster1.charter.net (mxip03a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.133]) by mxsf32.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j05EHkQZ010084 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:17:46 -0500 Received: from fep05.charter.net (HELO 209.225.8.224) (209.225.8.85) by mxip03.cluster1.charter.net with SMTP; 05 Jan 2005 09:17:46 -0500 Message-Id: <3khdg6$g1o4sa@mxip03a.cluster1.charter.net> X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,102,1102309200"; d="scan'208"; a="538710922:sNHT14574372" X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.12 (webedge20-101-197-20030912) From: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: IAS and Vne! Whoa! Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:17:46 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stall speed approaches TAS at altitude. I think that is one reason why the big boys use Mach numbers and stick shakers. Now I said more than I know. Maybe the military and heavy iron guys can chime in. Marc > From: Jim Sower > Date: 2005/01/05 Wed AM 07:10:04 GMT > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: IAS and Vne! Whoa! > > Actually, I'm talking about flutter. VNE (for our homebuilt purposes) > seems to be that IAS at which the designer who almost certainly hasn't > gone into it too very deeply, begins to perceive that he is on the cusp > of being uncomfortably close to it. Flutter that is. It's on that page > in the POH that even SMELLS like it's been pulled out of someone's ass :o) > I think I'll get some sleep ... Jim S. > > Jim Sower wrote: > > > Actually, I've been given to understand that *both* IAS and TAS are a > > factor. I don't know exactly what the relationship is, just that they > > both come into play. > > But now I've told you more than I know ... Jim S. > > > > John Slade wrote: > > > >> > Apparently Vne is NOT, it is a factor of True Airspeed!! That's > >> contrary to what I've read with respect to canard pushers, Ed. > >> As I understand it VNE for the Cozy, for example, is 220 mph IAS. > >> It's all to do with how many air molecules are hitting the airplane. > >> Someone tell me I'm wrong. ??? > >> > >> John > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >> > > > > > >