Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #14310
From: Bobby J. Hughes <bhughes@qnsi.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil coolers
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:31:48 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Message
Mark,
 
Did you ever figure out a good solution for you MT Prop / RWS redrive problem? This is the combination that I am looking at.
 
Bobby


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark R Steitle
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:24 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil coolers

Bobby,

Comparing the pictures to my Fluidyne cooler, the perma-cool design looks like the same size would be lighter, but less durable.  The fin spacing looks to be less dense on the perma-cool.  But then its hard to tell much from a picture.  Mounting would be an important issue, but possibly easier for a lighter unit.

 

Mark S.


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bobby J. Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:17 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil coolers

 

I found this company while researching oil coolers. Does anyone have any experience or information about these products. They advertise they pressure test the coolers to 300 psi. Fluidyne advertises testing at 200 psi. They look rugged.

http://www.perma-cool.com/Catalog/Cat_page10.html

 

Bobby Hughes

 

 

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Crook
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:33 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil coolers

 

 

 

http://www.fluidyne.com/pl_theoc.html 

 

 Really liked the DB 30517 (3.75" thick double pass model)  Will probably use this one on my -8.   

 

 Tracy   

 

Perhaps you mean use “two” instead of “this one”.  I looked closely (longingly) at the fluidyne when I was in the market for a cooler; but they just don’t make on with the capacity for the 20B.  One DB 30517 would handle neither the flow nor heat rejection needed; however 2 in parallel would do it.  At least that’s what my analysis says.

 

Al

 

 Nope, at least I don't think so.   Here's my take on it.  

 

The Mazda cooler has 180 CU In. core area and gives me enough cooling for the 13B.  I'm assuming for now that the dimensions for the Fluidyne are core area (must check) which give it 275 cu in, which is 153% of the Mazda.  Pretty good match, at least on paper.   The "effectiveness quotient"  for the Fluidyne at almost double the thickness is not as good but I'm hoping the much better ducting and pressure recovery on the -8 will cancel that out.  The higher delta T air temp will give less cooling drag, at least in my universe : )

 

In any case,  the main -8 mission calls for 100 HP at  >=18,000 ft.  It'll work.

 

 Tracy   (please don't ask me to define "effectiveness quotient")

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