Return-Path: Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 576126 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:05:03 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.70; envelope-from=sqpilot@bellsouth.net Received: from [216.78.114.182] by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20041222020432.YYKA2051.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[216.78.114.182]> for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:04:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.296 [265.6.3]); Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:04:27 -0600 Message-ID: <017701c4e7ca$8ff00b60$b6724ed8@paul52u7f5qyav> From: "Paul" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: East Coast Rotary Intake Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:04:25 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi, Bob....I have been thinking about possible solutions for the air intake as well. I purchased two nice pre-fabricated NACA ducts from Van's RV Aircraft. They are made to put in the sides of the fuselage of the RV aircraft for cockpit ventilation. They are nice units, with a male extension to which you attach your scat or sceet tubing to and run it to your eyeball vents. Totally prefabricated, just use the template provided to cut out the NACA shape and rivet or epoxy/glass them into place, attach your hose and you are finished. (Did both sides on a Saturday morning on my SQ2000). (They also cost less than 20 dollars if I remember correctly). I was considering putting one or two of them on the bottom of my cowl extensions (essentially wing extensions so that the wing meets the cowling), and running the hose or hoses right up to the throttlebody. Since it is under the wing, and in high pressure, it would seem as though it should provide cold air to the throttle body, especially since the engine is capable of sucking in the air even if there is not a lot of ram effect? I was wondering, however about rain....Seems there's not always a simple solution. If I just install two air horns, I will be ingesting the air that has gone through the radiator and oil cooler. Obviously I would get more power pulling in outside air compared to warmer cowling air....just don't know about the rain factor. Paul Conner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob White" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 7:46 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: East Coast Rotary Intake > Hi Tom, > > I still need to work out something for the intake. Since I'm in New > Mexico, I need to provide a filtered air source for those occasions when > there's more sand in the air than oxygen. We get some pretty heavy rain > showers also. I guess I see the main advantage of the ram air is > getting a little more speed at altitude. > > Bob White > > > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:01:06 -0800 (PST) > Tom wrote: > >> Bob, >> If you did get a good ram air setup I'm wondering what the effects of >> flying thru a good rain shower would be with this setup. I assume >> you're talking unfiltered during flight. >> >> Tom >> >> >> --- Bob White wrote: >> > Hi Paul, >> > >> > It's a straight out design. Here is a photo of the first one Bruce >> > made. I think it was sent to Denmark. There are some supports not >> > shown. Bruce reports that it weighs 6.5 lbs with runner lengths of >> > 7 inches. I have also asked Bruce to put the throttle body on the >> > other end so I can get some ram air into it. >> > >> > Bob White (still waiting...maybe next week!) >> > >> . >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. >> http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail >> >> >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> > > > -- > http://www.bob-white.com > N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (soon) > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release Date: 12/21/2004 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release Date: 12/21/2004