Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao08.cox.net ([68.230.241.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 575404 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:51:21 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.31; envelope-from=ALVentures@cox.net Received: from BigAl ([68.7.14.39]) by fed1rmmtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20041221155048.QKKC27771.fed1rmmtao08.cox.net@BigAl> for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:50:48 -0500 From: "Al Gietzen" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: Oil coolers Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:51:06 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c4e774$e1f7ea00$6400a8c0@BigAl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C4E731.D3D4AA00" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C4E731.D3D4AA00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 Mark, Tracy and Al, Looks like you guys are using either C&R or Fluidine oil coolers. Do = these units have thermostats? If not, is this a problem? If it is a problem, what is your solution? I'm full of questions today! Thanks, Ken Powell =20 Ken; =20 My cooler is a custom unit built by Griffin. I was working with = Fluidyne on a custom unit when they stopped doing custom designs. They have some = very good units, but none with the capacity and configuration that I was = looking for. =20 =20 I don't have a thermostat in my system; but I recognize the possibility = of adding one later. It makes very little difference on warmup, because = that is happening on the ground where there is very little cooling air flow anyway (in my pusher setup). I'd anticipate that the principal issue = will be on long descents, especially in cold weather; so I'll wait and see = when I get there. If I see oil temps getting much below about 140 in any = flight conditions, it will get my attention. =20 Al =20 -------------- Original message --------------=20 This solves a riddle for me. I bought a very stout oil cooler off ebay = a while back for my 20B. From the specs on the fluidyne website, it looks = to be a Fluidyne model 30716. It has a Modine sticker on the side and was represented to be a NASCAR cooler. I had never been able to locate any = oil coolers manufactured by Modine, so I imagine it was built by Fluidyne = for Modine. It has four fittings, two on each end and is a double-pass = design. There are very fine turbulators inside the tubes. Yes, it is heavy, but very well built. =20 =20 Mark S. =20 _____ =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Crook Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 12:52 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil cooler mount updated pictures =20 =20 -Finally, I could find another type of oil cooler, which would be closer = to the size of the evap core. In the old archives, Mike Wills mentioned Fluidyne. I had one of their radiators in my FD, and it was very well built. Here's a link to the oil cooler family I'm thinking about. They look pretty good to me. What do you think? http://www.fluidyne.com/pl_theoc.html =20 Thanks, Rusty (waiting for a giant estimate for replacing my dead heat pump) =20 =20 Really liked the DB 30517 (3.75" thick double pass model) Will probably = use this one on my -8. =20 =20 Tracy =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C4E731.D3D4AA00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

 

Mark, Tracy and Al,

Looks like you guys are using either C&R = or Fluidine oil coolers.  Do these units have thermostats?  If = not, is this a problem?  If it is a problem, what is your solution?  = I'm full of questions today!

Thanks,  Ken Powell

 

Ken;

 

My cooler is a custom unit built = by Griffin.  I was working with Fluidyne on a custom unit when they stopped doing = custom designs.  They have some very good units, but none with the = capacity and configuration that I was looking for. 

 

I don’t have a thermostat = in my system; but I recognize the possibility of adding one later.  It = makes very little difference on warmup, because that is happening on the = ground where there is very little cooling air flow anyway (in my pusher setup). =  I’d anticipate that the principal issue will be on long descents, especially = in cold weather; so I’ll wait and see when I get there.  If I = see oil temps getting much below about 140 in any flight conditions, it will get = my attention.

 

Al

 

-------------- Original message = --------------

This solves a = riddle for me.  I bought a very stout oil cooler off ebay a while back for my 20B.  From the specs on the fluidyne website, it looks to be a = Fluidyne model 30716.  It has a Modine sticker on the side and was = represented to be a NASCAR cooler.  I had never been able to locate any oil = coolers manufactured by Modine, so I imagine it was built by Fluidyne for = Modine.  It has four fittings, two on each end and is a double-pass = design.  There are very fine turbulators inside the tubes.  Yes, it is = heavy, but very well built. 

 

Mark = S.

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Crook
Sent:
Monday, December 20, 2004 12:52 = PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Oil cooler mount updated pictures

 

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-Finally, I could = find another type of oil cooler, which would be closer to the size of the = evap core.   In the old archives, Mike Wills mentioned Fluidyne.  I had one of their radiators in my FD, and it was very = well built.  Here's a link to the oil cooler family I'm thinking = about.  They look pretty good to me.  What do you = think?   http://www.fluidyne.com/p= l_theoc.html

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Thanks,

Rusty (waiting = for a giant estimate for replacing my dead heat pump)

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Really liked the DB 30517 (3.75" thick double pass model)  Will = probably use this one on my -8. 

 

Tracy 

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