Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #14091
From: Bill Schertz <wschertz@ispwest.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: cooler thoughts
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 04:55:53 -0800
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Message
One other difference. The Mazda cooler has a thermostat that bypasses the oil until it warms up. the evaporator core has to handle all the flow even when cold, so the evap core is seeing the high initial startup pressure.

Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # 4045


----- Original Message -----
From: Russell Duffy [mailto:13brv3@bellsouth.net]
Sent: 12/18/2004 6:08:31 PM
To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: cooler thoughts

The problem might simply be that the pulses are hitting high pressures and fatiguing the reasonably flimsy evap cores. There's also the possibility that the pulses hit a resonant vibration at some point, which causes the failure.

It would be interesting to see a trace of these pulses, and they may be important; but I am skeptical about them being the primary cause unless your cooler is near the engine outlet, and you have rigid (solid metal) lines.

Hi Al,

If I thought a standard pressure sensor could catch the pulses, I'd be tempted to put a scope on it. I just don't think it would be a conclusive test though. Leon has told me some interesting stories that lead me to believe in the pressure pulse theory. I also can't think of a better explanation. I don't quite buy the cycling pressure theory, because I'm only running about 80 psi at the cooler. I think the evap core probably sees close to an 80 psi cycle between static, and operating pressure. Also, I believe the leak started after a good 20 minutes of flight, not on initial pressure at startup, which wouldn't indicate that it failed on the pressure cycle.

Fortunately, I think the only point we need to prove is that evap cores are a bad idea for oil coolers.

Cheers,

Rusty

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