Return-Path: Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 568455 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:30:30 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.67; envelope-from=sqpilot@bellsouth.net Received: from paul52u7f5qyav ([209.214.44.191]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with SMTP id <20041215152956.GAGQ2049.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@paul52u7f5qyav> for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:29:56 -0500 Message-ID: <001e01c4e2ba$e99f1d50$bf2cd6d1@paul52u7f5qyav> From: "Paul" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Atkins Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:29:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C4E288.9E542200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C4E288.9E542200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the pictures, Al....it looks amazingly similar to the one I = made two weeks ago. (I guess it's true that great minds think alike)? = (kidding). I am glad to hear it works well for you. I think I'll go = ahead and hook it up and give it a try. I can always reverse the = procedure if I am not happy with it. Thanks for the pic and input. = Paul Conner ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Al Gietzen=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 12:41 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Atkins Paul; To comment on just one of your questions; I think it is advisable to = have a heat barrier between the fuel rails and intake manifold, and the = hot exhaust manifold. I made one out of .020 SS. Photo attached. It = has brackets to the lower intake manifold bolts, and some light weight = SS brackets to the TB. Al Hi, Kathy....glad to see you on this list....I wish to ask a question = you=20 may know, or possibly Dave can answer. I purchased Dave's = ignition/fuel=20 system which included the MicroTech ECU, TWM throttlebody with = injectors,=20 short intake manifold, sensors, coils, etc, etc. My question = is....With the=20 short manifold putting the TWM throttlebody over the top of the = exhaust, has=20 Dave had any problems with fuel dripping out of the throttlebody after = engine shutdown? Also, did he put any kind of heat barrier between = the=20 exhaust manifold and the throttlebody? I am in the process of = installing=20 mine, and any helpful hints would be sincerely appreciated. Lastly, = since I=20 have basically the same setup as Dave's, what size prop is he using, = and=20 what RPM's should I look for on static runup? Sorry for the barrage = of=20 questions....any and all answered will be much appreciated. = sincerely,=20 Paul Conner, 13b turbo (without the turbo) on an SQ2000 canard in = Mobile, AL ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "kathy" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 5:46 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Atkins >i monitor the list when i am able, I am semi retired from the shop = due to=20 >health problems, and I am a free > lance writer these days. My computr is down so i have to beg the = kids to=20 > use theirs.... > Smiles & happy holidays > Kathy > > -------Original Message------- >> From: "Dale Rogers" >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Atkins >> Sent: 14 Dec 2004 11:52:04 >> >> Well, >> >> I guess that answers the question as to whether Kathy still = monitors=20 >> this list. >> >> Hi, Kathy! >> >> Dale R. >> COZY MkIV #1254 >> >> > From: "kathy" >> > Date: 2004/12/13 Mon PM 02:18:27 EST >> > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >> > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Atkins was Re: Serious single rotor=20 >> questions >> > >> > Sorry my computer blinked and sent this before i was ready. >> > >> > One of David's first proiducts the thermal pellet, was copied by = 2=20 >> companies, one in CA and the other > on the east coast. The east coast company even admitted a direct = copy. >> > >> > Next another company copies our apex seals claiming some false=20 >> information. >> > If you spent time and hard earned money making a better product = and=20 >> found this happening to you, > I'm sure you would be upset and Paranoid. >> > David and the AtkinsRotary.com crew take alot of pride in the = products=20 >> that are developed and I > guess copying those products are a compliment to us, as immation is = the=20 > sincerest form of flattery. >> > Have a happy holiday. >> > Kathy >> > -------Original Message------- >> > > From: "kathy" >> > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Atkins was Re: Serious single rotor=20 >> questions >> > > Sent: 13 Dec 2004 19:11:46 >> > > >> > > Hi guys, >> > > I would like to clarify a few things. David has only replaced = ross=20 >> drives that has failed. He had one > for several years that had failed twice, so he is not fond of them. = He now=20 > has a power sport drive that he is > very comfortable with. The only belt type drives he has are for air = boats.=20 > One is currently in R&D with a > gentleman in Arkansas that is a belt drive for a 1 rotor engine. >> > > "Yep, he's been giving me that samestory for 2+ years. He is = an=20 >> "odd duck" and seems > paranoidthat people are after him or something." >> > > >> > > if Dave seems paranoid, well you should put your self in his = shoes. >> > > >> > > -------Original Message------- >> > > > From: "Joe Hull" >> > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Atkins was Re: Serious single = rotor=20 >> questions >> > > > Sent: 13 Dec 2004 17:18:16 >> > > > >> > > > Sorry, I won't deal with anyonewho spreads those kind of = lies,=20 >> particularly about someone I > respect asmuch as as I do Tracy. I was absolutely furious when I = got off=20 > thephone. >> > > > >> > > > Cheers, >> > > > >> > > > Rusty (no Atkins products forme) >> > > > >> > > > Yep, he's been giving me that samestory for 2+ years. He = is an=20 >> "odd duck" and seems > paranoidthat people are after him or something. He doesn't realize = that=20 > he'sonly hurting himself. >> > > > >> > > > Joe Hull >> > > > >> > > > Bellevue (Seattle), Washington >> > > > >> > > > Cozy MkIV #991 (working on Engine &Electrical & Finishing) >> > > > >> > > >=20 >> http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/JoeHull/index.html[4][2] >> > > -------Original Message------- >> > > >> > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/[5][3] >> > > >> Archive:=20 >> http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html[6][4] >> > -------Original Message------- >> > >> > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/[7] >> > >> Archive: = http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html[8] >> > >> >> >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/[9] >> >> Archive: = http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html[10] > -------Original Message------- > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html=20 >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C4E288.9E542200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the pictures, Al....it looks = amazingly=20 similar to the one I made two weeks ago. (I guess it's true that great = minds=20 think alike)?  (kidding).  I am glad to hear it works well for = you.  I think I'll go ahead and hook it up and give it a try.  = I can=20 always reverse the procedure if I am not happy with it.  Thanks for = the pic=20 and input.  Paul Conner
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Al = Gietzen=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, = 2004 12:41=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Atkins

Paul;

 

To comment on just one of your = questions;=20 I think it is advisable to have a heat barrier between the fuel rails = and=20 intake manifold, and the hot exhaust manifold.  I made one out of = .020=20 SS.  Photo attached.  It has brackets to the lower intake = manifold=20 bolts, and some light weight SS brackets to the TB.

 

Al

 

 

Hi, Kathy....glad to see you on this = list....I wish to=20 ask a question you

may know, or possibly Dave can answer.  = I=20 purchased Dave's ignition/fuel

system which included the MicroTech ECU, TWM = throttlebody with injectors,

short intake manifold, sensors, coils, etc, = etc. =20 My question is....With the

short manifold putting the TWM throttlebody = over the=20 top of the exhaust, has

Dave had any problems with fuel dripping out = of the=20 throttlebody after

engine shutdown?  Also, did he put any = kind of=20 heat barrier between the

exhaust manifold and the throttlebody?  = I am in=20 the process of installing

mine, and any helpful hints would be = sincerely=20 appreciated.  Lastly, since I

have basically the same setup as Dave's, = what size=20 prop is he using, and

what RPM's should I look for on static = runup? =20 Sorry for the barrage of

questions....any and all answered will be = much=20 appreciated.  sincerely,

Paul Conner, 13b turbo (without the turbo) = on an=20 SQ2000 canard in Mobile, AL

----- Original Message ----- =

From: "kathy"=20 <kathy@atkinsrotary.com>

To: "Rotary motors in aircraft"=20 <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Sent: Tuesday, December 14, = 2004 5:46=20 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Atkins

 

 

>i monitor the list when i am able, I am = semi=20 retired from the shop due to

>health problems, and I am a = free

> lance writer these days. My computr is = down so i=20 have to beg the kids to

> use theirs....

> Smiles & happy = holidays

> Kathy

>

> -------Original = Message-------

>> From: "Dale Rogers"=20 <rogersda@cox.net>

>> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:=20 Atkins

>> Sent: 14 Dec 2004 = 11:52:04

>>

>>  Well,

>>

>>  I guess that answers the = question as to=20 whether Kathy still monitors

>> this list.

>>

>>  Hi, Kathy!

>>

>>  Dale R.

>>  COZY MkIV = #1254

>>

>>  > From: = "kathy"

>>  > Date: 2004/12/13 Mon PM = 02:18:27=20 EST

>>  > To: "Rotary motors in=20 aircraft"

>>  > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Atkins  was Re: Serious single rotor

>> questions

>>  >

>>  > Sorry my computer = blinked and sent=20 this before i was ready.

>>  >

>>  > One of David's first = proiducts the=20 thermal pellet, was copied by 2

>> companies, one in CA and the=20 other

> on the east coast. The east coast = company even=20 admitted a direct copy.

>>  >

>>  > Next another company = copies our=20 apex seals claiming some false

>> information.

>>  > If you spent time and = hard earned=20 money making a better product and

>> found this happening to=20 you,

> I'm sure you would be upset and=20 Paranoid.

>>  > David and the = AtkinsRotary.com=20 crew take alot of pride in the products

>> that are developed and = I

> guess copying those products are a = compliment to=20 us, as immation is the

> sincerest form of = flattery.

>>  > Have a happy=20 holiday.

>>  > Kathy

>>  > -------Original=20 Message-------

>>  > > From:=20 "kathy"

>>  > > Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re:=20 Atkins  was Re: Serious single rotor

>> questions

>>  > > Sent: = 13 Dec=20 2004 19:11:46

>>  > >

>>  > >  Hi=20 guys,

>>  > >  I would like = to clarify=20 a few things. David has only replaced ross

>> drives that has failed. He had=20 one

> for several years that had failed = twice, so he is=20 not fond of them. He now

> has a power sport drive that he=20 is

> very comfortable with. The only belt = type drives=20 he has are for air boats.

> One is currently in R&D with=20 a

> gentleman in Arkansas = that is a=20 belt drive for a 1 rotor engine.

>>  > >  "Yep, he's = been giving=20 me that samestory for 2+ years.  He is an

>> "odd duck" and = seems

> paranoidthat people are after him or=20 something."

>>  > >

>>  > >  if Dave seems = paranoid,=20 well you should put your self in his shoes.

>>  > >

>>  > >  = -------Original=20 Message-------

>>  > >  > From: = "Joe=20 Hull"

>>  > >  > Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re: Atkins  was Re: Serious single rotor =

>> questions

>>  > >  > Sent:=20 13 Dec 2004 17:18:16

>>  > >  = >

>>  > >  >  = Sorry, I=20 won't deal with anyonewho spreads those kind of lies, =

>> particularly about someone=20 I

> respect asmuch as as I do=20 Tracy.  I was absolutely furious when I got off =

> thephone.

>>  > >  = >

>>  > >  > =20 Cheers,

>>  > >  = >

>>  > >  >  = Rusty =20 (no Atkins products forme)

>>  > >  = >

>>  > >  >  = Yep, he's=20 been giving me that samestory for 2+ years.  He is an =

>> "odd duck" and = seems

> paranoidthat people are after him or = something.=20 He doesn't realize that

> he'sonly hurting = himself.

>>  > >  = >

>>  > >  >  = Joe=20 Hull

>>  > >  = >

>>  > >  > =20 Bellevue (Seattle), Washington

>>  > >  = >

>>  > >  >  = Cozy MkIV=20 #991 (working on Engine &Electrical & = Finishing)

>>  > >  = >

>>  > >  > =

>>=20 = http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/JoeHull/index.html[4][2]

>>  > >  = -------Original=20 Message-------

>>  > >

>>  > >  = >> =20 Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/[5][3]

>>  > >  = >>  Archive:=20

>>=20 = http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html[6][4]

>>  > -------Original=20 Message-------

>>  >

>>  > >>  = Homepage: =20 http://www.flyrotary.com/[7]

>>  > >> =20 Archive:  =20 = http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html[8]

>>  >

>>

>>  >>  = Homepage: =20 http://www.flyrotary.com/[9]

>>  >>  = Archive:  =20 = http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html[10]

> -------Original = Message-------

>

>>>  Homepage: =20 http://www.flyrotary.com/

>>>  Archive:  =20 http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html

 

 

 

>>  Homepage: =20 http://www.flyrotary.com/

>>  Archive:  =20 = http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html

>>  Homepage: =20 http://www.flyrotary.com/
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