Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.100] (HELO ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 565574 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:13:21 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.100; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-069-132-109-019.carolina.rr.com [69.132.109.19]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id iBDHD3Kk015894 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:13:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003b01c4e137$075a5d30$2502a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Fw: [FlyRotary] Re: Glide distances Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:13:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Bob, Just went back and looked up elevation of airport I deadsticked into and its > 979 ft so say 1000 ft above sea level. Adding that to my calculation of > 1137 would have given me 2137 ft AGL at arrival at the airport. That is why > I had the impression of having to lose quite a bit of altitude - its because > I had a bit to lose. > > So at 750 fpm I could have glide another 2.85 minutes before running out of > altitude which at 85 mph = 85*2.85/60 = 4 additional miles. But, very > happy to have arrived with that much altitude to lose. > > Ed > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Anderson" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 11:54 AM > Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Glide distances > > > > Yes, Bob. This was with the 2.17 gearbox and 68x72" prop. The RV > > reportedly has a glide ratio of 10:1. So with 9500 MSL (actually about > 7500 > > AGL), I should have been able to glide 10*7500 = 75,000 ft = 14.2 miles. > > So at 14.2-12 Miles =2.2 miles at 87 mph = 2.2/87 = .0252 hr = 1.5 > minutes > > at 750 fpm (of course was not constant but mostly 750) = 1137 ft at the > end > > of my 12 mile glide at the airport. So fairly close to my estimate of > > altitude (also the airport may not have been 2000 above sea level. > > > > In anycase, even with a 10:1 glide ratio (or less) you can still have a > fair > > chance of finding a spot to set it down and walk away depending on > altitude > > of course. > > > > Ed Anderson > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob White" > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 11:39 AM > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Glide distances > > > > > > > Ed, > > > > > > That's excellent. Your engine quits so you go into test pilot mode and > > > get all the data you can. Glide is one advantage you RV guys will have > > > over me I think. From what I've heard, the BD-4 glides a little better > > > than a rock with power off. I've only got 2 hours flying time in it, so > > > > I'm a little lite on first hand experience. Hopefully soon. > > > > > > Was this before you upgraded to the "monster" prop? > > > > > > Bob White > > > > > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:47:45 -0500 > > > "Ed Anderson" wrote: > > > > > > > On my 12 mile engine out glide, I punched up the NRST button on my GPS > > > > to find the two closest airfields were both 12 miles away (gulp!). > > > > Since I knew I was going to be gliding around 85 mph that any sort of > > > > headwind would considerably shorten the glide. Fortunately I had been > > > > paying attention to the wind direction as I was outrunning a cold > > > > front, so turned 120 degs for the downwind field. > > > > > > > > From 9500 MSL I arrived over the selected airfield with approx > > > > 1500-2000 ft AGL. I had altitude to do a 360 and a couple of hard > > > > "S" turns to loose altitude and even then came over the fence at 100 > > > > mph. This with a stubby wing RV-6A. > > > > > > > > I did have time in that 8 minute glide to find out that my best glide > > > > speed (at that weight) was 87 MPH which produced a 750 fpm rate of > > > > descent. Any slower the rate went up and any faster the rate went up. > > > > Also were I found what airspeeds the prop would stop at as well as > > > > what it took to get it going again. So a rather productive 8 minutes > > > > all things considered {:>). > > > > > > > > Ed Anderson > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.bob-white.com > > > N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (soon) > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > >