Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao12.cox.net ([68.230.241.27] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 565044 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 01:18:29 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.27; envelope-from=daveleonard@cox.net Received: from davidandanne ([68.111.224.107]) by fed1rmmtao12.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with SMTP id <20041213061813.YNSO21905.fed1rmmtao12.cox.net@davidandanne> for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 01:18:13 -0500 From: "DaveLeonard" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Glide Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:18:23 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Well, I can tell you that with my engine turning off all fuel and power to the ignition the prop still keeps wind milling down to 100kts. Maybe I'll try going slower one of these days just to see. David Leonard The Rotary Roster http://members.aol.com\_ht_a\rotaryroster\index.html > > Ken, > > The one experience I've had with a "stopped" engine was in a C150. I > asked an instructor how much different it was if the engine was really > stopped as compared to idleing. We were at about 9000 ft (4000 AGL) so > he killed the engine. I was surprised that the prop did not windmill. > It stopped! After gliding around for a bit, we put it into a dive, and > the prop didn't budge till we were over 120 IAS. With a gear reduction, > it would be that much harder for the prop to turn the engine, so you > probably won't get a windmillng prop, which would be worse. > > Bob White > > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 04:16:32 +0000 > kenpowell@comcast.net wrote: > > > Yes, I have been told of the differences in a 'real' engine out as > > opposed to just pulling the engine to idle. However, in the junky > > rentals that I fly I wouldn't dream of actually killing the engine and > > flying it to the ground. That would be the one time that I came up > > 'short' and the engine wouldn't crank especially since the glide > > really is shorter with the engine off and NO thrust (I also understand > > that a windmilling prop causes more drag than a 'stopped' prop). So I > > guess that I'll just have to continue my practise with the engine at > > 'idle'. > > > > Ken P. > > > > > > -- > http://www.bob-white.com > N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (soon) > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html