Return-Path: Received: from ns5.rokland.us ([67.15.10.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP-TLS id 565000 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:54:38 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.15.10.31; envelope-from=bob@bob-white.com Received: from bgp01386375bgs.brodwy01.nm.comcast.net ([68.35.160.229] helo=localhost) by ns5.rokland.us with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CdiE1-0004dx-TA for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:54:22 -0600 Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:54:20 -0700 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Glide Message-Id: <20041212215420.776c2616.bob@bob-white.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0beta2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns5.rokland.us X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bob-white.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Ken, The one experience I've had with a "stopped" engine was in a C150. I asked an instructor how much different it was if the engine was really stopped as compared to idleing. We were at about 9000 ft (4000 AGL) so he killed the engine. I was surprised that the prop did not windmill. It stopped! After gliding around for a bit, we put it into a dive, and the prop didn't budge till we were over 120 IAS. With a gear reduction, it would be that much harder for the prop to turn the engine, so you probably won't get a windmillng prop, which would be worse. Bob White On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 04:16:32 +0000 kenpowell@comcast.net wrote: > Yes, I have been told of the differences in a 'real' engine out as > opposed to just pulling the engine to idle. However, in the junky > rentals that I fly I wouldn't dream of actually killing the engine and > flying it to the ground. That would be the one time that I came up > 'short' and the engine wouldn't crank especially since the glide > really is shorter with the engine off and NO thrust (I also understand > that a windmilling prop causes more drag than a 'stopped' prop). So I > guess that I'll just have to continue my practise with the engine at > 'idle'. > > Ken P. > > -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (soon)