Return-Path: Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 564846 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:27:13 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.67; envelope-from=sqpilot@bellsouth.net Received: from paul52u7f5qyav ([216.78.114.212]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with SMTP id <20041213022657.XJMN2049.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@paul52u7f5qyav> for ; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:26:57 -0500 Message-ID: <001801c4e0bb$35409e70$d4724ed8@paul52u7f5qyav> From: "Paul" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Paul's first flight (was Re: DAR visit?) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:26:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thanks, Steve....I need more than the 4400 rpm's I am getting. Paul Conner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Brooks" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 6:11 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Paul's first flight (was Re: DAR visit?) > Paul, > > I don't know how much my static RPM's will help, > becase I have an adjustable pitch prop. I adjusted it > to get about 5000 static. Actual, at 5 lbs of boost > on the turbo in a climb, I'm getting about 5300. > It's a 72" prop, and I believe that the pitch is about > 75". I have the high pitch blades, and the pitch > range is 45-105" on the pitch. Mine is about in the > center of the range. > > I'm using a 3 blade Ivo prop, quick adjust. I bought > it because, I didn't know what pitch to run with the > turbo, it was cheap, and I can make it in flight > adjustable if I want to. > > > > Steve Brooks > --- Paul wrote: > >> Hi, Steve...unfortunately, I tried that. I installed >> two switches, one for >> each fuel pump, and turned them off first. Still had >> the fuel drip. Since >> my intakes run downhill, and the TWM throttlebody is >> also pointed downward >> at a 45 degree angle, apparantly the fuel coating >> the insides of the long >> intake tubes slowly runs downhill toward the >> throttlebody, and eventually >> leaks past the butterfly. I'm considering >> installing the short intake I >> have from Atkins Rotary. It puts the injectors back >> on the hot side of the >> engine, but should eliminate all that downhill >> plumbing I have. Thanks for >> your input. >> What kind of static rpm's are you getting on >> your takeoff roll ? >> Thanks again. Paul Conner >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Brooks" >> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >> >> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 3:51 PM >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Paul's first flight (was >> Re: DAR visit?) >> >> >> > Paul, >> > >> > I used to get a few drops of fuel out of the >> throttle >> > body also. On someone's suggestion in the group, >> I >> > installed a switch (safety locking) on the primary >> > fuel pump. On shut down, I set the engine to >> about >> > 2000 RPM's and shut off the primary pump/ It runs >> for >> > just a few seconds, and then dies. No more fuel >> leak. >> > >> > Apparently the fuel dripping out of the throttle >> body >> > is due to leakage of the injectors with the fuel >> rail >> > still pressurized. >> > >> > Steve Brooks >> > >> > >> > --- Paul wrote: >> > >> >> MessageHi, Todd....Yes, I didn't like trying to >> >> thread the needle through the lowest spot in the >> >> trees.(Pucker factor) I wish I could have taken >> the >> >> airplane to Mobile Downtown airport with it's >> 11,000 >> >> foot runway, but trying to get it there with the >> >> non-removeable 12 foot canard on it would have >> been >> >> precarious to say the least. Would have to go >> >> through too much of the city compared to the >> country >> >> back roads we took to get to this country >> airport. >> >> The first thing I am going to do is to "un-do" >> the >> >> leaning adjustment that I made to the MicroTech >> ECU. >> >> I initially did that because I was getting a few >> >> drops of fuel dripping out ot the throttlebody >> after >> >> shutdown, and thought perhaps it was too rich, so >> I >> >> leaned it out. Most likely my biggest mistake. >> >> Gotta have extra fuel with that extra air that >> comes >> >> in when you open the throttlebody. >> >> My climb speed was 110 knots, (when I could >> get >> >> it) and the oil temps were 160 F. Nevver got >> above >> >> that on the oil temp. Paul, I need more power, >> >> Conner >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Todd Bartrim >> >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> >> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 2:02 AM >> >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Paul's first flight >> (was >> >> Re: DAR visit?) >> >> >> >> >> >> Congrats Paul! >> >> Welcome to the the club! Glad to hear you >> made >> >> it up & down ok. But I must agree with Rusty, as >> I'm >> >> sure your probably already aware and get that >> power >> >> issue resolved. I can't imagine having to aim for >> a >> >> gap in the trees when flying off a paved strip >> >> (heck, any strip for that matter). You're >> probably >> >> correct in that it's a fuel mixture issue. If you >> >> already know that you've programmed it lean, then >> >> this is the logical place to start as it takes >> fuel >> >> to make power. >> >> Good to hear that your temps dropped on >> climb >> >> out, hopefully they will still be able to hold >> their >> >> own when you make more power. What was your climb >> >> speed? What about your oil temps? >> >> >> >> Again, congrats and welcome to a very >> >> exclusive club. >> >> >> >> Todd Bartrim >> >> >> >> RV9Endurance >> >> 13B Turbo Rotary >> >> C-FSTB >> >> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm >> >> >> >> "The world will always have a >> place >> >> for those that bring hard work and determination >> to >> >> the things they do." >> >> >> > >> > >> >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> >>> Archive: >> http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > >> >> >> >> >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> >> Archive: >> http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html