Return-Path: Received: from web51104.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.38.146] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with SMTP id 564693 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 19:12:08 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.190.38.146; envelope-from=prvt_pilot@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 64293 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Dec 2004 00:11:52 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=lk6oMTteyBpujCfMrFuPBunEQX1DeesK3vN7CHAlUGGxrRS+r5fvBKSKSFLdCS6QVUksOim3as5HqecCPtNZm8zOoMmFN36gYTJpGUFWF5di05tSpdw7UodGOit/FD5890/Xn84r7DbzypdH41OHReAtgnt8vMkWBSftCqMRy5Q= ; Message-ID: <20041213001152.64291.qmail@web51104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.146.250.37] by web51104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:11:52 PST Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:11:52 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Brooks Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Paul's first flight (was Re: DAR visit?) To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Paul, I don't know how much my static RPM's will help, becase I have an adjustable pitch prop. I adjusted it to get about 5000 static. Actual, at 5 lbs of boost on the turbo in a climb, I'm getting about 5300. It's a 72" prop, and I believe that the pitch is about 75". I have the high pitch blades, and the pitch range is 45-105" on the pitch. Mine is about in the center of the range. I'm using a 3 blade Ivo prop, quick adjust. I bought it because, I didn't know what pitch to run with the turbo, it was cheap, and I can make it in flight adjustable if I want to. Steve Brooks --- Paul wrote: > Hi, Steve...unfortunately, I tried that. I installed > two switches, one for > each fuel pump, and turned them off first. Still had > the fuel drip. Since > my intakes run downhill, and the TWM throttlebody is > also pointed downward > at a 45 degree angle, apparantly the fuel coating > the insides of the long > intake tubes slowly runs downhill toward the > throttlebody, and eventually > leaks past the butterfly. I'm considering > installing the short intake I > have from Atkins Rotary. It puts the injectors back > on the hot side of the > engine, but should eliminate all that downhill > plumbing I have. Thanks for > your input. > What kind of static rpm's are you getting on > your takeoff roll ? > Thanks again. Paul Conner > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Brooks" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 3:51 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Paul's first flight (was > Re: DAR visit?) > > > > Paul, > > > > I used to get a few drops of fuel out of the > throttle > > body also. On someone's suggestion in the group, > I > > installed a switch (safety locking) on the primary > > fuel pump. On shut down, I set the engine to > about > > 2000 RPM's and shut off the primary pump/ It runs > for > > just a few seconds, and then dies. No more fuel > leak. > > > > Apparently the fuel dripping out of the throttle > body > > is due to leakage of the injectors with the fuel > rail > > still pressurized. > > > > Steve Brooks > > > > > > --- Paul wrote: > > > >> MessageHi, Todd....Yes, I didn't like trying to > >> thread the needle through the lowest spot in the > >> trees.(Pucker factor) I wish I could have taken > the > >> airplane to Mobile Downtown airport with it's > 11,000 > >> foot runway, but trying to get it there with the > >> non-removeable 12 foot canard on it would have > been > >> precarious to say the least. Would have to go > >> through too much of the city compared to the > country > >> back roads we took to get to this country > airport. > >> The first thing I am going to do is to "un-do" > the > >> leaning adjustment that I made to the MicroTech > ECU. > >> I initially did that because I was getting a few > >> drops of fuel dripping out ot the throttlebody > after > >> shutdown, and thought perhaps it was too rich, so > I > >> leaned it out. Most likely my biggest mistake. > >> Gotta have extra fuel with that extra air that > comes > >> in when you open the throttlebody. > >> My climb speed was 110 knots, (when I could > get > >> it) and the oil temps were 160 F. Nevver got > above > >> that on the oil temp. Paul, I need more power, > >> Conner > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Todd Bartrim > >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft > >> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 2:02 AM > >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Paul's first flight > (was > >> Re: DAR visit?) > >> > >> > >> Congrats Paul! > >> Welcome to the the club! Glad to hear you > made > >> it up & down ok. But I must agree with Rusty, as > I'm > >> sure your probably already aware and get that > power > >> issue resolved. I can't imagine having to aim for > a > >> gap in the trees when flying off a paved strip > >> (heck, any strip for that matter). You're > probably > >> correct in that it's a fuel mixture issue. If you > >> already know that you've programmed it lean, then > >> this is the logical place to start as it takes > fuel > >> to make power. > >> Good to hear that your temps dropped on > climb > >> out, hopefully they will still be able to hold > their > >> own when you make more power. What was your climb > >> speed? What about your oil temps? > >> > >> Again, congrats and welcome to a very > >> exclusive club. > >> > >> Todd Bartrim > >> > >> RV9Endurance > >> 13B Turbo Rotary > >> C-FSTB > >> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm > >> > >> "The world will always have a > place > >> for those that bring hard work and determination > to > >> the things they do." > >> > > > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >>> Archive: > http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: > http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >