Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao05.cox.net ([68.230.241.34] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 564553 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 15:34:04 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.34; envelope-from=daveleonard@cox.net Received: from davidandanne ([68.111.224.107]) by fed1rmmtao05.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with SMTP id <20041212203347.HFFS16028.fed1rmmtao05.cox.net@davidandanne> for ; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 15:33:47 -0500 From: "DaveLeonard" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Paul's first flight Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:33:56 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Congratulations Paul! I have added you to the list of flying rotary powered aircraft on the Rotary Roster. An honor held by only 45 individuals. (I still need to add Mistral - and I am sure I am missing others). I'm sure you will fix the power issue. I am able to run up my RV-6 to at least 5500 RPM at 35"MAP by just holding the brakes, so I imagine you have a ways to go, especially if you use some chocks too. David Leonard The Rotary Roster http://members.aol.com\_ht_a\rotaryroster\index.html > > > Paul, > Congratulations on the first flight. Sounds like it > was pretty uneventful other thean the power issue. > > I had a similar issue in the beginning, but it was > only a tuning issue, so maybe that is all yours is as > well. > > If you have an A/F ratio gauge, it would help identify > the problem, but as a guess, I'd say probably too lean > > Steve brooks > > > > You're correct, Rusty....the winds were a direct > > crosswind 20 knots, gusting higher (windsock > > standing straight out). At approximately 3:30 P.M. > > my SQ2000 slipped the surly bounds of Earth....made > > a couple circuits around the airport and had an > > uneventful (yawn) landing. The precarious part was > > the take-off and climbout. I am not getting enough > > power. From 1/4 to 1/2 throttle, engine accelerates > > smoothly and plenty of power. As soon as I try to go > > above 1/2 throttle, the engine begins to bog down. > > Advancing the throttle more only made it bog down > > even more. On takeoff roll, I was only able to get > > 4400 rpm's at approximately 1/2 throttle. > > Acceleration felt OK, and the nosewheel lifted at > > around 70 knots. Mains lifted off shortly afterward, > > but it just didn't want to climb. (Flew fine in > > ground effect, of course). Unfortunately, I had > > reached the point of no return (short runway) and > > past the accelerate/stop point, so I was committed. > > Found a "V" in the treeline and headed for that. > > Made it...(whew)....continued slow climb to 2000 > > feet, made a couple of circuits around the airport > > and had a smooth landing (considering the strong, > > gusty crosswinds). Down and stopped by mid field. > > I had a few "bugs" to work out, like > > tightening the tension on the nosewheel, so after 3 > > trips to the runway and back to the hangar, by the > > time I got to the runway the fourth time, water > > temperatures were up to 190 degrees. Fortunately, > > on climbout they started dropping, and by the time I > > was downwind, they were stable at 170. I am pleased > > that the temperature decreased in the climb. > > I have to work on the power problem ASAP. > > I'm thinking it is mixture related. I had programed > > the MicroTech ECU to be 10 percent leaner (for all > > throttle settings), and perhaps that was a mistake. > > If I remember correctly, you need sufficient air and > > sufficient fuel to make power. Because the > > butterfly in the throttlebody continues opening past > > 1/2 throttle, I'm reaonably certain that I am > > getting more air past 1/2 throttle. I am assuming > > that I am not getting more fuel coming in past that > > 1/2 throttle position, causing the engine to bog > > down past 1/2 throttle. Best RPM I could obtain was > > 4400 rpm (in cruise with the prop unloaded), and > > with a 2.19:1 gear reduction,that puts my max rpm on > > the prop at only 2000. Barely enough to fly, let > > alone climb out. Will continue problem solving and > > pass on results. On the positive side, first flight > > was successful, aircraft flew well, and no-one got > > hurt. I have to count that as a success. Take > > care. Paul Conner, Mobile, AL > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html