Return-Path: Received: from access.aic-fl.com ([204.49.76.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 564507 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:37:36 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.49.76.2; envelope-from=unicorn@gdsys.net Received: from b9k4u9 (unverified [204.49.76.45]) by access.aic-fl.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with SMTP id for ; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:37:31 -0600 Message-ID: <00d301c4e08a$5dc3d3c0$2d4c31cc@b9k4u9> From: "Richard Sohn" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Serious single rotor questions Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:36:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:39 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Serious single rotor questions > In a message dated 12/12/2004 9:01:47 AM Central Standard Time, > jesse@jessfarr.com writes: > > << Bill Schertz > I have to admit that I never looked at exactly how the oil gets out of > the > rotors. Can anyone confirm this? > >> > > One or the other or the irons that has no stationary gear teeth will be > the > oil return. Unlike the center iron that has the angled return ramp to the > sump, > the front iron drains through a window at the bottom of the stationary > gear. > The rear iron has an angled ramp like the center iron. So if the rotor > gear > faces the rear iron it might work. > > Richard Sohn has one running, but I didn't ask which gear he was using. > > Unless you make some of this out of aluminum, there is very little weight > savings over the two rotor. > > Lynn E. Hanover > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html I am using the WP side stationary gear. My e-shaft is modified on the PTO side to safe more weight. Lynn is right, if you want to safe any significant amount of weight on a single rotor, drastic changes will have to be made. Like side housings, water pump, e-shaft and redrive attachment. The counter weight system has to optimised for best total weight. With all that considered, my 12A based engine is now at about 90lb. I picked the HIRTH redrive because is is rated at 135hp and has good selection of ratios. I have now a 3.3:1 for use in my ADID and plan to run the engine up to 7500RPM. Richard Sohn N-2071U