Return-Path: Received: from frontend2.cwpanama.net ([201.225.225.168] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 564470 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:23:52 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=201.225.225.168; envelope-from=rijakits@cwpanama.net Received: from [201.224.93.110] (HELO usuarioq3efog0) by frontend2.cwpanama.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.1) with SMTP id 31956096 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:23:37 -0500 Message-ID: <009c01c4e06f$3b235720$6e5de0c9@usuarioq3efog0> From: "rijakits" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: exhaust design question Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:22:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2741.2600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2742.200 Finn, I see your point. My uneducated wild guess was, that maybe the pointed pieces would not be able to emit sound efficiently as you need some resonating surface for that ( like a big round speaker, etc.) or at least not at lower frequencies wher we can hear it. This whole idea was of course not ment to be a muffler for the exhaust by itself but a "possibility" to avoid noise emitting from the muffler outside walls......... Thomas J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Finn Lassen" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 11:10 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: exhaust design question > Those triangular pieces are foam - some sound absorbing material. Hard > materials like metal is not likely to absorb sound, rather they're > likely to reflect it. > > Look at arcustic (sp?) ceiling pates, carpet, curtains. Then compare to > a naked room with hardwood floors. > > Having the muffler, expecially a thin walled one, inside the cowling, > and the cowling cowered with some fireproof sound dampening material, > would undoubtedly help. > > Finn > > rijakits wrote: > > >A wild idea/question: How is the sound emitted from something like a > >silencer? > >Remember any pics of sound proof chambers - like the car manufacturers have > >to check source and dynamics of sound coming of their cars. These chambers > >are all full of triangular foam (or so it seems) to eat up the sound, as not > >to reflect anything and falsify the data. > > > >Would it work to weld triangular shaped pieces on the OUTSIDE of a muffler? > >.... or better has anyone any idea or tried that already? > >I have no reason to believe that this works, but I think is worth a thought! > >Any sound engineers on the list? > > > >I remember in the old LP (music) times the very highend turntables would > >come with an accessory: a heavy glassplate that was to be supported by > >inverse ceramic cones or glasscones that in turn where supposed to be placed > >on ceramic or glass again (point down). Supposedly to not absorb any > >frequency from the floor/suroundings and to not loose any sound to the floor > >either.... > > > >I am not enough of a music conoseur to ever have found a difference, but > >that doesn't mean it didn't work:)) > > > >Any ideas? > > > >Thomas J. > > > > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >