Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 561514 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 15:27:12 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-069-132-109-019.carolina.rr.com [69.132.109.19]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id iB9KQd4S014290 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 15:26:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001201c4de2d$648af760$2502a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Leaks Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 15:26:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C4DE03.7B748B00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C4DE03.7B748B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No disparagement of remanufacture parts implied, Jesse, I have used many = remanufactured parts and still do. However, I have had at least 3 = injectors which have stuck open or leaked in the 250 hours of flying. = These were cleaned and "refurbished" (not certain exactly what that = means). Would new parts have done any better - don't really know but = would have hoped so. However, infant mortality rate of new parts is certainly a factor as = well. Used injectors are probably better than new injectors - however, = after a certain point I am certain that the reliability curve starts = down again. A number of folks on the list have had injector problems at one time or = the other. I just think that 10-15 year old injectors are getting a bit = long in the tooth considering the environment they operate in. Here we do have a choice in that new injectors are available - just = rather expensive. Four new injectors and I have the $$ I spent to = rebuild the engine in the first place. =20 Ed Anderson ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jesse farr=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 3:10 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Leaks Since I, at one time, owned a parts rebuilding business, I gather you = are suggesting that on certain type parts of certain age that washed = parts are probably not worth the risk of going with less than new ? = That's really all you can do with somethings. Of course, with others, = you can not only re-build and/or replace worn parts but you can even = improve on them. On others, cleaning and checking them is about all can = be done. jofarr, soddy tn ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Anderson=20 These are refurbished injectors supposedly cleaned and flow tested - = but, unless you buy new Mazda injectors at $235, you are getting = remanufactured injectors which are getting to be almost 15 years old in = some cases. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C4DE03.7B748B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No disparagement of remanufacture parts = implied,=20 Jesse, I have used many remanufactured parts and still do.  = However, I have=20 had at least 3 injectors which have stuck open or leaked in the 250 = hours of=20 flying.  These were cleaned and "refurbished" (not certain exactly = what=20 that means).  Would new parts have done any better - don't really = know but=20 would have hoped so.
 
However, infant mortality rate of new = parts is=20 certainly a factor as well.  Used injectors are probably better = than new=20 injectors - however, after a certain point I am certain that the = reliability=20 curve  starts down again.
 
A number of folks on the list =  have had=20 injector problems at one time or the other.  I just think that = 10-15 year=20 old injectors are getting a bit long in the tooth considering the = environment=20 they operate in.
 
Here we do have a choice in that new = injectors are=20 available - just rather expensive.  Four new injectors and I have = the $$ I=20 spent to rebuild the engine in the first place. 
 
Ed Anderson
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 jesse = farr=20
Sent: Thursday, December 09, = 2004 3:10=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel = Leaks

Since I, at one time, owned a parts = rebuilding=20 business, I gather you are suggesting that on certain type parts of = certain=20 age that washed parts are probably not worth the risk of going with = less than=20 new ? That's really all you can do with somethings.  Of course, = with=20 others, you can not only re-build and/or replace worn parts but you = can even=20 improve on them.  On others, cleaning and checking them is = about all=20 can be done.
jofarr, soddy tn
----- Original Message ----- = From: Ed=20 Anderson
 
These are refurbished injectors = supposedly=20 cleaned and flow tested - but, unless you buy new Mazda injectors at = $235,=20 you are getting remanufactured injectors which are getting to be=20 almost 15 years old in some=20 cases.
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