Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 557063 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 05 Dec 2004 22:49:36 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-069-132-109-019.carolina.rr.com [69.132.109.19]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id iB63n34S028042 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 22:49:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004501c4db46$437d1100$2502a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: [FlyRotary]2002 crash of Taylor Coot w/13b Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 22:47:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Tom, as best I recall, Ken Welter reported that the Taylor Coot had an "aft cg problem" before it flew and Ken had warned the pilot that the aft cg could produce an unrecoverable stall condition. I believe he was also warned that if the engine ever quite with that rear CG - an unrecoverable stall would immediately happen. So with that initial aft CG condition and the subsequent engine stoppage and resulting rearward drag caused by a stopped propeller precluded any recovery from the induced stall. The cause of the engine stoppage was reportedly due to an oil cooler (not stock Mazda) that burst which led to a loss of the oil and the engine eventually seizing - from which there was no recovery. Unfortunately the NTSB knew nothing about rotary engines, so they went to a local Mazda dealer (who probably did not know much more) and because the oil injection lines had been removed from the engine (and the side housings were reportedly "blued" from the heat of no lubrication) the NTSB quickly jumped on that as the cause of failure. Of course no injected oil might cause your apex and possibly your corner seals to wear faster than normal but would not cause the engine to seize. So the NTSB missed it on this one. Unfortunately, here was an accident that did not have to happen. But, when a person disregards well intended warnings - there is little anyone can do. Ed Anderson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:38 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [FlyRotary]2002 crash of Taylor Coot w/13b > Perry, now that you describe it, seems that I did read something about an > incident like that somewhere. Yes, I noticed the hole in the NTSB last > paragraph. > Tom > > --- Perry Mick wrote: > > If Ken Welter is still on this list, he can fill you in. Basically the > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >