Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #13247
From: paul <sqpilot@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] high oil temps must end
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:03:23 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 7:10 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] high oil temps must end

Greetings,
 
Sorry to hear about Johns most recent problems.  I'm already nominating him for the perseverance award. 
 
I tried to go visit Paul today, but only made it about half way before getting tired of fighting my oil temps.  It was only 60 degrees today, and I climbed at 120 mph, but only made it to 4500 feet before ringing the bell at 210.  I reduced power, and continued a slow climb to 8500 where I wanted to do some cruise testing, but I couldn't get the oil temp below 210.  At least I thought I could get the temps down once I leveled out... wrong :-(    I finally did a spirited 180, and headed home to fix this once and for all (I hope).  Otherwise, the engine ran OK.  
 
Water temps continue to be just awesome, almost too cool, so I can't see this being a cowl exit problem.  I have to conclude that my current (poorly shaped) 24 cu in oil scoop is not getting the job done.  I haven't made a final decision, but I think I'll probably do the easiest thing first, which is to simply increase the size of the current scoop, without doing much for the shape.  At present, the scoop is oval, about 7" wide by 4" tall.  The plan will be to increase it to 7" round, which will be 38 sq in, and should be way overkill.  If this doesn't cool significantly better, I may have to come to a new conclusion :-) 
 
The oil temps were just great with the B drive.  The water temps were even lower than now.  For reference, here's an excerpt from my 7-4-04 log.  
 

Finally got a cloud free day, so I climbed to 8000 ft to do some testing.  I climbed at 120 mph, and saw a max of 195 degrees on the oil temp, and a max of 178 degrees on water.  It took 7 minutes, according to the EM-2 flight timer to get to 8000 ft, which is OK for now. 

 

The extra power afforded by the C drive must just be pushing my heat load beyond what the current oil setup can handle.  Stay tuned for more fiberglass fun.
 
Ed, have you noticed any of this temp increase?  Also, what was the size of your oil inlet again?  I know you have a much more ideal duct shape than I do, which is probably helping quite a bit.  At the moment, I'll settle for brute force cooling if it actually works.
 
Rusty (joining John with my "tired of this" attitude)
 
 
Hey, Rusty....sorry you couldn't make it to St Elmo, but even more sorry to hear about your oil temp problem.  I have no doubt that you will solve the problem shortly.  I had a terrible time with my cell phone. I received a message that I had voicemail, but couldn't retrieve it. Tried at least 50 times, then decided I better forget the phone while I had that big hammer in my hand. (No need to buy another cell phone/two-way radio unit).  We'll put together a visit soon.  Good luck with the cooling issue.  Paul Conner
 
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