Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #12571
From: Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: OIL METERING PUMP
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:35:14 -0800
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Just a further note on the metering pump; that seal for the adjustment shaft is apparently hard to come by, so I found that two 1/16 x ¼ i.d. x 3/8 o.d. O-rings side by side in the groove solved the problem just fine.

 

Also, as noted below, the position of the adjustment arm is not critical as long as it is somewhere off the bottom end.  A nice way to anchor it is to remove the arm, turn it over, place it back on the shaft and mark where it hits the stop pin.  Then cut off the arm, notch it to fit the pin, and reinstall it (still turned over from the original position, of course). See attached photo.  It results in positioning the adjustment about half way between the stops.

 

Al

 

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: OIL METERING PUMP

 

Removed and disassembled the injection/metering pump today to determine cause of oil leak.  There is a seal on the output adjustment shaft that was compressed and hard (looked baked) and obviously not sealing (used pump from Atkins).

 

One interesting note – the output adjustment (arm normally connected to the throttle linkage) is not a proportional control; it is basically a two position setting, low flow at low end (idle), and high flow for anything just above idle position.  So in our application where we just tie it off, the arm position is not critical, anything about 10-15 degrees or so off the low stop is as high a flow setting as it is going to get.

 

Not able to determine the internal porting, but it does not appear to be positive displacement to each of the 4 ports.

 

Al

 

the oil entrance is right behind the relieve hole on the other side of the shaft bore, coming out of the cover wall.

Oil will leak out when the shaft is bad. Under normal condition, there can be no pressure buildup in the pump, because it is all open to the crank case via the oil inlet and relieve hole. BTW, the shaft has a flat section on its running surface toward the pump for oil feed.

The actual pump does not have a drive plate. The picture shown on the ACRE site has no resemblance with the physical design of the real pump. There are even functional differences. The most significant functional difference is that the piston makes two strokes per revolution.

 

Richard Sohn
N-2071U
unicorn@gdsys.net

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Al Gietzen

Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 7:05 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: OIL METERING PUMP

 

Subject: [FlyRotary] OIL METERING PUMP

 

 

Richard;

 

Thanks for input on this.  That relieve hole looks very large and not likely to blocked, especially on a newly rebuilt engine. Or am I looking at the wrong thing; how does the oil get into the recess?

 

Oil entering the pump can leak past the adjuster shaft if the seal was bad, right?  And what happens to the oil that enters the piston with the blocked exit port as the piston moves to eject the oil?  I was thinking it gets forced back past the piston into the drive area where it can then leak past the adjuster shaft, but I guess the feed oil is in that area anyway.  Still; it seems forcing the piston against the oil with no exit port would put high stress on the drive plate, no?

 

Al

Al,

 

here is some more info on the OMP oil feed.

Oil is coming into a recess in the pump drive shaft. The thus formed cavity has a relieve hole as shown in the pic, making the pressure in the cavity practically even with the crank case pressure, depending someway on the flow rate. The roll pin in the relieve hole is to make sure there is no air pocket in the cavity, which is connected to the  pump intake.

Each out put is driven by a separate piston and two are together per stroke. Each stroke is small enough not to create a problem when you block a line off. It Would not hurt the pump if two outputs are connected for double oil flow.

 

I hope it is clear, and not confusing.

 

 

Richard Sohn
N-2071U
unicorn@gdsys.net

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