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If we want to swap IMC stories, I have a good one. My
instrument rating is actually multi-engine. I was
going to become an airline pilot a couple of years
ago, and ended up getting allot of ratings just in
time for the bottom to fall out after 9/11.
Shortly after getting my instrument rating, I was
working on my multi-commercial in a Beech Duchess at
Vero Beach.
Storm were a daily event, but over the ocean it was
generally good. To make a long story short, after
flying for about 90 minutes, the thunderstorms moved
to the shore, and also extended out into the ocean
several miles to the North and South.
I was still VFR, so I filled with Miami center for an
ILS into Ft. Pierce. By the time we got the
clearance, that airport was 0/0. ATC said the Vero
Beach was still OK for a VOR approach, so we headed
there.
We flew right into the thunderstorm. I was hoping
that ATC was directing us to a soft spot in the storm,
but it sure didn't fell like it. Things were OK,
until they gave me a decent from 3000 to 2000 when I
was on a base leg for the approach. When I got close
to 2000, I started adding power, added ,ore power,
full throttle full props, and still in a 1000 fpm
decent. This was in a plane that would climb over
1000 fpm normally.
I was trying to get any climb, and then the stall
warning started, so I had to push the nose down a
little more. The air speed was all over the place and
was going from 80 kts down to nothing at times.
To make things even better, and tower at Vero took a
lightning strike and was knocked off line. That
really didn't matter though, because I finally broke
out to the thunderstorm at about 800 AGL, and was out
of the mess. I went and landed at another airport,
and swore that I would never get into another
thunderstorm.
Steve Brooks
--- DaveLeonard <daveleonard@cox.net> wrote:
I agree with you guys on one level. I never plan to
intentionally fly into
icing-like conditions or around big imbedded
towering cu. There is also
no-doubt a currency factor that should play a big
role.
But on the other hand, having the additional
training will only be helpful
give your personal weather decisions. I have also
spent my share of time in
inadvertent IMC where I was afraid to contact ATC
for fear of getting in
trouble. Being legal, separated from other traffic,
and better trained is
never a bad thing.
I had been waiting on getting my ticket until my
RV-6 was flying. Now it
is, so last week I took the written. First flight
coming soon, practicing
on the computer. Bluemountain EIFS lite G3 paid for
- to redundantize the
panel. (check out this newest bit of gear from an
ex-rotor head.
www.bluemountainavionics.com )
Dave Leonard
>
> Steve,
>
> You made the point I felt about myself. If I
weren't going to stay
> current (unlikely) then having the ticket just
might be enough to tempt me
> to do something that could end up getting me
killed.
>
> Lets' face it - by flying experimental aircraft
with
> experimental engines
> we have already moved the risk factor up the scale
a notch or two. I
> personally like to keep the other risk factors
(within my control) on the
> lower side {:>)
>
> Ed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Brooks" <prvt_pilot@yahoo.com>
> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft"
<flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:04 PM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 3000 fpm :-)
(unofficially)
>
>
> > Ed,
> > Actually I have an instrument rating, but the
guy who
> > had the Bonaza wasn't current, and I wouldn't
want to
> > fly an unfamiliar aircraft in actual IMC. Especially
> > as bad as it was here 1-1/2 vis w/ 500 ft
ceiling.
> > Not very good conditions, especially since I
haven't
> > flown in actual IMC in 2 years. Not a good
place to
> > pick back up.
> >
> > Steve Brooks
> > --- Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bulent Aliev" <atlasyts@bellsouth.net>
> > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft"
> > > <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 4:58 PM
> > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 3000 fpm :-)
(unofficially)
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 10/31/04 3:54 PM, "Ed Anderson"
> > > <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Steve, good to hear from you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I always looked at the weather in SC
just
> > > to see if I did get off
> > > what
> > > > > it would be like a bit further south. Generally
> > > the fog didn't start to
> > > > > lift until near the Georgia border.
> > > >
> > > > You guys have one year to get your
instrument
> > > rating. Last year we had 6
> > > > rotary powered airplanes. This year two? We
are
> > > going backwards?
> > > > Fin is the only one with real coconuts to
fly in
> > > even if the tower told
> > > him
> > > > it is IFR (or fly period :) It was a great
> > > gathering as usual and we thank
> > > > Tracy and Laura for the hospitality and
Laura's
> > > parents for landing them
> > > > their beautiful house.
> > > > Bulent
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ah! I see we are now using Finn's coconuts as
the
> > > standard- are we?. Well,
> > > this old ape is content to let the young ones
with
> > > the big coconuts fly in
> > > that kind of weather. Probably why you only
see
> > > small coconuts on old apes
> > > {:>)
> > >
> > > Two winters ago I stupidly got myself in
situation
> > > (clear Wx was being
> > > reported behind a cold front) flying at 8000
ft and
> > > trying to go over the
> > > tops of a "few clouds". I ended up spending
15-20
> > > minutes in solid IFR and
> > > ice. Ice formed on the canopy and in front of
each
> > > fuel cap on the wing.
> > > Fortunately had pitot heat and remembered to
turn it
> > > on before it was too
> > > late. yes, I did the 180 thing but the
weather had
> > > build up behind me
> > > quickly.
> > >
> > > Staying on the AI, altimeter and GPS, I was
finally
> > > able to get down and
> > > below the weather at 1800 MSL. I finally
landed
> > > minus radio antenna (that
> > > the ice took off) just north of Atlanta. The
> > > first thing I saw when I
> > > staggered into the FBO's office through the
blowing
> > > snow was an article
> > > posted to their reading board about the
average time
> > > a non-instrument rated
> > > pilot lasted in IFR conditions was a few
seconds
> > > short of 3 minutes. The
> > > experience and the article was enough to
shrink any
> > > oversized coconuts
> > > this old ape may have had. {:>)
> > >
> > > My plane is instrumented for IFR (fortunately)
and I
> > > actually completed the
> > > instrument ground school and passed the FAA
ground
> > > test just before I
> > > retired. I then decided that there was
probably
> > > risk in me completing an
> > > obtaining an IFR rating. If you don't stay
current
> > > - I think you are
> > > fooling yourself and just might end up in a
> > > situation beyond your current
> > > capabilities.
> > >
> > > Sorry, I didn't make it and missed seeing all
you
> > > folks that did, but hope
> > > to make it next year. Now if Tracy got a GPS
> > > approach for Shady Bend {:>)
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > >
> > > Ed Anderson.
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