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From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: IFR currency was Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 3000 fpm :-) (unofficially)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:38:52 -0500
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Go for it Dave,  Didn't mean to imply that having an instrument rating was
in any way a bad thing - so long as you stay current and don't let your
skills erode then I would agree with your rationale.

Ed Anderson

----- Original Message -----
From: "DaveLeonard" <daveleonard@cox.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 11:27 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: IFR currency was Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 3000 fpm :-)
(unofficially)


> I agree with you guys on one level.  I never plan to intentionally fly
into
> icing-like conditions or around big imbedded towering cu.  There is also
> no-doubt a currency factor that should play a big role.
>
> But on the other hand, having the additional training will only be helpful
> give your personal weather decisions.  I have also spent my share of time
in
> inadvertent IMC where I was afraid to contact ATC for fear of getting in
> trouble.  Being legal, separated from other traffic, and better trained is
> never a bad thing.
>
> I had been waiting on getting my ticket until my RV-6 was flying.  Now it
> is, so last week I took the written.  First flight coming soon, practicing
> on the computer.  Bluemountain EIFS lite G3 paid for - to redundantize the
> panel.  (check out this newest bit of gear from an ex-rotor head.
> www.bluemountainavionics.com )
>
> Dave Leonard
>
>
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> >     You made the point I felt about myself.  If I weren't going to stay
> > current (unlikely) then having the ticket just might be enough to tempt
me
> > to do something that could end up getting me killed.
> >
> >   Lets' face it - by flying experimental aircraft with
> > experimental engines
> > we have already moved the risk factor up the scale a notch or two.  I
> > personally like to keep the other risk factors (within my control) on
the
> > lower side {:>)
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Brooks" <prvt_pilot@yahoo.com>
> > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:04 PM
> > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 3000 fpm :-) (unofficially)
> >
> >
> > > Ed,
> > > Actually I have an instrument rating, but the guy who
> > > had the Bonaza wasn't current, and I wouldn't want to
> > > fly an unfamiliar aircraft in actual IMC.  Especially
> > > as bad as it was here 1-1/2 vis w/ 500 ft ceiling.
> > > Not very good conditions, especially since I haven't
> > > flown in actual IMC in 2 years.  Not a good place to
> > > pick back up.
> > >
> > > Steve Brooks
> > > --- Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bulent Aliev" <atlasyts@bellsouth.net>
> > > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft"
> > > > <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 4:58 PM
> > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 3000 fpm :-) (unofficially)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On 10/31/04 3:54 PM, "Ed Anderson"
> > > > <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Steve, good to hear from you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, I always looked at the weather in SC just
> > > > to see if I did get off
> > > > what
> > > > > > it would be like a bit further south.  Generally
> > > > the fog didn't start to
> > > > > > lift until near the Georgia border.
> > > > >
> > > > > You guys have one year to get your instrument
> > > > rating. Last year we had 6
> > > > > rotary powered airplanes. This year two? We are
> > > > going backwards?
> > > > > Fin is the only one with real coconuts to fly in
> > > > even if the tower told
> > > > him
> > > > > it is IFR (or fly period :) It was a great
> > > > gathering as usual and we thank
> > > > > Tracy and Laura for the hospitality and Laura's
> > > > parents for landing them
> > > > > their beautiful house.
> > > > > Bulent
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ah! I see we are now using Finn's coconuts as the
> > > > standard- are we?.  Well,
> > > > this old ape is content to let the young ones with
> > > > the big coconuts fly in
> > > > that kind of weather.  Probably why you only see
> > > > small coconuts on old apes
> > > > {:>)
> > > >
> > > > Two winters ago I stupidly got myself in situation
> > > > (clear Wx was being
> > > > reported behind a cold front) flying at 8000 ft and
> > > > trying to go over the
> > > > tops of a "few clouds". I ended up spending 15-20
> > > > minutes in solid IFR and
> > > > ice.  Ice formed on the canopy and in front of each
> > > > fuel cap on the wing.
> > > > Fortunately had pitot heat and remembered to turn it
> > > > on before it was too
> > > > late.  yes, I did the 180 thing but the weather had
> > > > build up behind me
> > > > quickly.
> > > >
> > > > Staying on the AI, altimeter and GPS, I was finally
> > > > able to get down and
> > > > below the weather at 1800 MSL.   I finally landed
> > > > minus radio antenna (that
> > > > the ice took off) just  north of Atlanta.   The
> > > > first thing I saw when I
> > > > staggered into the FBO's office through the blowing
> > > > snow was an article
> > > > posted to their reading board about the average time
> > > > a non-instrument rated
> > > > pilot lasted in IFR conditions was a few seconds
> > > > short of 3 minutes. The
> > > > experience and the article was  enough to shrink any
> > > > oversized coconuts
> > > > this old ape may have had. {:>)
> > > >
> > > > My plane is instrumented for IFR (fortunately) and I
> > > > actually completed the
> > > > instrument ground school and passed the FAA ground
> > > > test just before I
> > > > retired.  I then decided that there was probably
> > > > risk in me completing an
> > > > obtaining an IFR rating.  If you don't stay current
> > > > - I think you are
> > > > fooling yourself and just might end up in a
> > > > situation beyond your current
> > > > capabilities.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I didn't make it and missed seeing all you
> > > > folks that did, but hope
> > > > to make it next year.  Now if Tracy got a GPS
> > > > approach for Shady Bend {:>)
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > >
> > > > Ed Anderson.
> > > >
> > > >
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