Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.103] (HELO ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 493682 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:39:01 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.103; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-069-132-109-019.carolina.rr.com [69.132.109.19]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id iA13cUCi004655 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:38:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005301c4bfc4$49699d10$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: IFR currency was Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 3000 fpm :-) (unofficially) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:38:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Steve, You made the point I felt about myself. If I weren't going to stay current (unlikely) then having the ticket just might be enough to tempt me to do something that could end up getting me killed. Lets' face it - by flying experimental aircraft with experimental engines we have already moved the risk factor up the scale a notch or two. I personally like to keep the other risk factors (within my control) on the lower side {:>) Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Brooks" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:04 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 3000 fpm :-) (unofficially) > Ed, > Actually I have an instrument rating, but the guy who > had the Bonaza wasn't current, and I wouldn't want to > fly an unfamiliar aircraft in actual IMC. Especially > as bad as it was here 1-1/2 vis w/ 500 ft ceiling. > Not very good conditions, especially since I haven't > flown in actual IMC in 2 years. Not a good place to > pick back up. > > Steve Brooks > --- Ed Anderson wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bulent Aliev" > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 4:58 PM > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 3000 fpm :-) (unofficially) > > > > > > > On 10/31/04 3:54 PM, "Ed Anderson" > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Steve, good to hear from you. > > > > > > > > Yes, I always looked at the weather in SC just > > to see if I did get off > > what > > > > it would be like a bit further south. Generally > > the fog didn't start to > > > > lift until near the Georgia border. > > > > > > You guys have one year to get your instrument > > rating. Last year we had 6 > > > rotary powered airplanes. This year two? We are > > going backwards? > > > Fin is the only one with real coconuts to fly in > > even if the tower told > > him > > > it is IFR (or fly period :) It was a great > > gathering as usual and we thank > > > Tracy and Laura for the hospitality and Laura's > > parents for landing them > > > their beautiful house. > > > Bulent > > > > > > > Ah! I see we are now using Finn's coconuts as the > > standard- are we?. Well, > > this old ape is content to let the young ones with > > the big coconuts fly in > > that kind of weather. Probably why you only see > > small coconuts on old apes > > {:>) > > > > Two winters ago I stupidly got myself in situation > > (clear Wx was being > > reported behind a cold front) flying at 8000 ft and > > trying to go over the > > tops of a "few clouds". I ended up spending 15-20 > > minutes in solid IFR and > > ice. Ice formed on the canopy and in front of each > > fuel cap on the wing. > > Fortunately had pitot heat and remembered to turn it > > on before it was too > > late. yes, I did the 180 thing but the weather had > > build up behind me > > quickly. > > > > Staying on the AI, altimeter and GPS, I was finally > > able to get down and > > below the weather at 1800 MSL. I finally landed > > minus radio antenna (that > > the ice took off) just north of Atlanta. The > > first thing I saw when I > > staggered into the FBO's office through the blowing > > snow was an article > > posted to their reading board about the average time > > a non-instrument rated > > pilot lasted in IFR conditions was a few seconds > > short of 3 minutes. The > > experience and the article was enough to shrink any > > oversized coconuts > > this old ape may have had. {:>) > > > > My plane is instrumented for IFR (fortunately) and I > > actually completed the > > instrument ground school and passed the FAA ground > > test just before I > > retired. I then decided that there was probably > > risk in me completing an > > obtaining an IFR rating. If you don't stay current > > - I think you are > > fooling yourself and just might end up in a > > situation beyond your current > > capabilities. > > > > Sorry, I didn't make it and missed seeing all you > > folks that did, but hope > > to make it next year. Now if Tracy got a GPS > > approach for Shady Bend {:>) > > > > Best Regards > > > > Ed Anderson. > > > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > >> Archive: > > http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html