Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #12343
From: Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: EWP
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:54:07 -0700
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

> Al

 

Al,

 

   I wonder if you misunderstood the nature of the question

and of my reply.  I keep saying that I shouldn't reply to

messages at 0-dark-30 when I can't sleep, but I keep doing

it.  Still, the question wasn't whether to convert or not

but whether or not to use the controller.

 

Oh, I may have been answering some combination of e-mails on the subject; but I thought some point had been made in relation to power requirements and using the controller; or maybe I was just blabbing

 

   The belt-driven water pump has to be able to provide

cooling flow under worse-case conditions: low-speed city

traffic.  Therefore, it is way over capacity at 6500 RPM.

This can be mitigated somewhat by changing pulley sizes,

but at the risk of the cooling at idle and taxiing. 

 

Looking at the relationship between speed, flow and power dissipation, I come to a different conclusion.  The pump output curve goes up relatively linearly with speed  and bends over toward flat as the back pressure builds.  The power dissipation required (with a prop) goes up roughly as the cube of the speed (parabolically), so it goes up slowly at first and then heads up pretty steep as you get past 3-4000 rpm.  At some point out there the curves for flow produced and the flow required cross, and beyond that you have a cooing problem.  So the greatest excess flow with the belt driven pump is probably somewhere in there around 3000 +- (where you probably don’t care if you are wasting a couple of horses), and at the power output at 6000-6500 needs all the flow you get; and then some if you have marginal cooling capacity.

 

   The electric pump allows demand-based flow, using only

as much energy as necessary to provide adequate cooling at

that moment.

 

   Not using the controller, leaves three basic options:

(A) wire direct, pumping full flow all the time and using

    a thermostat to maintain minimum heat.

(B) wire direct, with no thermostat, and run cold during

    decents and other low-load conditions.

(C) Put in a manual speed control.

 

Rusty's concern - inadequate "minimum" flow speed - can

be dealt with fairly easily.

 

I’d go with the controller.  Probably at cruise the EWP can save a bit of pumping power.

 

Al

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