Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.103] (HELO ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 480483 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:50:03 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.103; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from ms-mss-03-ce0-1 ([10.10.5.86]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i9KHn0Ch007368 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from southeast.rr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I5W00FHM9HOIU@ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.10.1.25] (Forwarded-For: [143.209.73.14]) by ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com (mshttpd); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:49:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:49:00 -0400 From: echristley@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: radiator weight To: Rotary motors in aircraft Cc: Deltaflyers@ernest.isa-geek.org Reply-to: echristley@nc.rr.com Message-id: <952218958488.958488952218@southeast.rr.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine ----- Original Message ----- From: keltro@att.net (Kelly Troyer) Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:46 am Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: radiator weight > Ernest, > Also depends on the size of the core......... > > > -- > Kelly Troyer > Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2 > Agreed. Once I decide on and purchase cores(s), I'll fill and weigh them, but for paper napkin work any reasonable configuration should work for now. I have been trying to get a rough idea of the advantage of the remote mounted radiators we've been discussing...playing with the numbers Jim had in his last newsletter article. Starting with the numbers after moving the battery to the rear, I used a weight of 14lbs and an arm of -12in with the radiator in the nose under the PSRU. Moving them back to station 3, the arm changes to 55in. Weight Arm Moment Original 1208.24 55.178 66,668.14 remove rad -14 -12 168 add rad -14 55 770 Total 1208.24 55.95 67,606.14 The radiator weight and position aren't exact, but it just gives a rough idea. The relocated radiator can ALMOST eliminate the 10lb of lead shot. I think the difference can be made up with a larger battery (it takes a little less than 1.3lb of battery in the stock position to get the arm of 1lb of lead shot in the tail post). Jim, with an electrically dependant engine, did you consider larger batteries rather than the shot? I'm putting it all in a spreadsheet which should be specific for the Delta and have lot of default values filled in.