Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 479178 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:39:26 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from ms-mss-03-ce0-1 ([10.10.5.86]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i9JKcq4R018768 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from southeast.rr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I5U000I1MOSJH@ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.10.1.25] (Forwarded-For: [143.209.73.14]) by ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com (mshttpd); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:38:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:38:52 -0400 From: echristley@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EWP To: Rotary motors in aircraft Reply-to: echristley@nc.rr.com Message-id: <89645289658e.89658e896452@southeast.rr.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Gietzen Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:29 am Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EWP > As for HP savings, these pumps don't pull much current, and it's > hard to > imagine that an extra few amps of load on an alternator is going to > costmore than a tiny fraction of a HP. > I was looking at Summit Racing's selection, trying to find the one with the lowest current draw. They had a couple at 5A, but most ranged 7-9A. At 13V and 9A, that's 117W*.00134Hp/W=.15678Hp Even at 50% efficiency, you're only talking about 1/3Hp pulled off the engine. > > > I'm still interested to know how much the stock water pump takes to > run at > high rpm. > So am I. I look forward to your test results 8*) > > > I understand the EWP has higher efficiency than the stock pump - does > someone know how much? (I may have missed it because I haven't > followed this > issue very closely). The argument is that the mechanical pump is designed to flow sufficient water even when the engine is slowly lugging up a mountainside. At cruise RPM, it is doing a lot of unecessary (and possibly counterproductive) work, as flowing the water faster doesn't cool any better after a certain ?unkown? point. The EWP efficiency claim is that it decouples water flow from engine RPM. The efficiency argument is highly debatable. The configuration options that it provides in my case are clear and straightforward.