Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao09.cox.net ([68.230.241.30] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.4) with ESMTP id 454004 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 20:05:39 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.30; envelope-from=daveleonard@cox.net Received: from davidandanne ([68.111.224.107]) by fed1rmmtao09.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.04 201-2131-111-106-20040729) with SMTP id <20041006000509.JNKN17970.fed1rmmtao09.cox.net@davidandanne> for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 20:05:09 -0400 From: "DaveLeonard" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] #$!%@$ temperatures still high Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 17:05:10 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Steve, sorry to hear that your temps are so high. One thing I notice about your description that is different from what I experience is the speed with which your temps seem to change. My system seems to have significantly more inertia. It is possible to me to overheat the coolant, but I really have to be climbing hard or running a lot of boost. On the first take off of the day I have several minutes of steep climbing (6-7000') before I need to level out some and pick up speed. If the engine is already hot I have to be careful from the start. Likewise when coming down. If I do get my coolant up to 220, it takes a full five minutes of low power descent to get it back into the low-normal range. I wonder what is different between our systems - volume of coolant? Whatever it is, this may a clue for you. I would definitely fix the mixture. I had that problem as well and it was greatly improved with detailed and repeated narrow width (mode 2) programming. Then I found my voltage problem and fixed it all. JMHO, Dave Leonard > I flew the Cozy this after noon, and was very disappointed in the > temperatures. The OAT was 81, and the coolant read 225 on the temperature > gauge, and the oil climbed slowly to 207 peak. The coolant did come down > about 10 degrees when I throttled back at pattern altitude, but > leveled off > there. > > When I throttled back on approach the coolant was about 180 and oil 190 on > touchdown. > > It appears to me that I don't have enough sq in of inlet area. I > do have a > P51 style scoop that I can bolt on, and try, but I don't have > allot of faith > that it will solve the problem. Tomorrow, it is suppose to be > cooler, about > 55 or so in the A.M., so maybe I'll try the other scoop with the cool > temperatures just to see what happens. If the temperatures are low, I may > fly for an hour or more, just to test some other systems. > > My next plan is to cut off the 2 12 sq in armpit scoops and > enlarge them to > 25 sq in. I'll then remove the oil cooler from the main scoop, which will > give the A/C evaporator cores about 22 sq in of additional inlet > area. I'll > feed the oil cooler from one of the armpit scoops. The other armpit scoop > feeds the intercooler and engine inlet air. > That is, unless someone has a better idea. > > I have a couple of other nagging issues: > > 1) I seem to be running rich. I turned the fuel pressure down > some (30 PSI > on my gauge (don't know if it's accurate)). That helped, but running both > fuel pumps makes the engine run very rich at full power. Turning off one > pump increases power and smoothness. At an idle, 1000-2000 RMS, if I shut > off the main fuel pump, the engine smoothes out, and gain a little rpm, > before running out of fuel. > > 2) For whatever reason the "coil test" has stopped working. I used to be > able to go to the "B" controller, and do the coil test to check > the leading > or trailing coils. That doesn't work, and if I turn it to off (I'm using > the ignition switch), it keeps on running. Used to kill the > engine before. > I'm not sure what this is, and haven't really done any testing yet. > > Steve Brooks (praying for cold weather) > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html