Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #11589
From: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis Temps, Lynn?
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:05:35 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
 

         I'm no expert by any means, but the higher water temps do not
surprise me.

         As I understand it, the exhaust porting on the Renesis is
completely different than the 13B. The exhaust runs much cooler in the
Renesis because of this, so I'm told. It is likely that a significant
fraction of the heat that is not going into the exhaust is going into the
water jacket instead.
True, the EGTs on the Renesis are much lower (by about 250 degrees) but the reduction is supposed to be due to a combination of less unburned fuel in exhaust, later opening of exhaust ports and higher compression ratio.  These should all result in better fuel efficiency and power.   But yes, part of the heat is apparently finding it's way into the coolant unless I have missed something.
 

         The car folks probably won't sense much of a change in water temps
because they typically have a lot of margin in the cooling system. You, on
the other hand, have a cooling system that has very little (if any) extra
capacity.
True, but I was hoping some of the racing crowd (who don't usually run thermostats) had swapped a Renesis into an existing car and perhaps seen a coolant temp change like I did.  Or maybe a dyno operator who noticed a higher coolant temp rise through the block.

         I haven't seen anyone do this, but I would think that it would
help the cooling if an effort were made to course the cowl air close to the
engine cases and/or the oil pan instead of just letting it blow anywhere it
pleases inside the cowling. A finned (or ribbed) oil pan might help too
without adding much weight.
 
Believe me, in an RV-4 cowl, the air has no choice but to pass closely over the engine & pan.  There's no other place for it to go : )

         It sounds like you are not after much additional cooling, so small
changes like these might be enough.

         Bill Dube'
Actually, it's a big bucket load of cooling.   Calculate the energy required to heat 30 GPM of coolant by 15 degrees. 
 
Figured out a way to test the exhaust heat theory.  I'm installing a temp sensor in the engine heater port.  This is after the coolant has passed over the combustion chambers but before going around the exhaust ports.  My existing coolant temp sensor is positioned at the water pump housing outlet which is after both.   The delta temp should represent the heat added by the exhaust.
 
Tracy
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