Return-Path: Received: from ns5.rokland.us ([67.15.10.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.2) with ESMTP-TLS id 420760 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:40:24 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.15.10.31; envelope-from=bob@bob-white.com Received: from bgp01386623bgs.brodwy01.nm.comcast.net ([68.35.161.221] helo=localhost) by ns5.rokland.us with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1C8nrz-0001tr-Ap for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:39:51 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:39:50 -0600 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine start Message-Id: <20040918163950.1192a7e2.bob@bob-white.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns5.rokland.us X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bob-white.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: John, Is there any chance at all the the coils are cross wired? i.e one of the front and rear rotor coils reversed for example, or the plug wires going to the wrong plug. I'm not sure that would make the symptomps you are seeing, but it couldn't help. Bob White On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:54:55 -0400 "John Slade" wrote: > MessageOK, Guys. Here's another chance for your valued remote > diagnosis input. > > After 2 months hiatus my engine now starts reliably and runs > consistently....just very very badly. In all the time I've had the > engine running, with various problems of mixture and tuning it has > NEVER run this rough. It shakes, and max rpm is about 2100. Each plug > seems to have a good spark but today I installed new plugs anyway and > checked the voltage on all coils and injectors. It runs exactly the > same as it did yesterday. The plugs are black and the engine blows a > bit of blue smoke. > > It IS running rich, so I tried changing the overall range with mode 3. > As I lowered the mixture with 7 or 8 pushes the rpm came up a bit, > then started to slow down again. At the best rpm the EC2 is showing > slightly higher than center on the mixture. I tried switching off > either set of coils and felt a degradation with either off. Disabling > secondary injectors killed the engine. Primaries didn't make much > difference. I checked compression. 105# on each rotor. > > My next thought is to check that cold start is operating properly, but > I'm pretty sure it is because the engine slowed down when I tried > switching it on. > > I spoke with Tracy and he suspects fuel, possibly a bad connection in > the injector wiring, so tomorrow I'll rewire the entire injector > circuit if necessary. > > I'm so glad Rusty still doesn't have power. I'm not in any mood for > jokes :( > > Thoughts anyone??? > > Frustrated in West Palm > -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (soon)