Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #11539
From: Dale Rogers <rogersda@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine start
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:05:39 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>


From: "John Slade" <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
Date: 2004/09/18 Sat PM 05:54:55 EDT
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine start

MessageOK, Guys. Here's another chance for your valued remote diagnosis
input.

After 2 months hiatus my engine now starts reliably and runs
consistently....just very very badly. In all the time I've had the engine
running, with various problems of mixture and tuning it has NEVER run this
rough. It shakes, and max rpm is about 2100. Each plug seems to have a good
spark but today I installed new plugs anyway and checked the voltage on all
coils and injectors. It runs exactly the same as it did yesterday. The plugs
are black and the engine blows a bit of blue smoke.

It IS running rich, so I tried changing the overall range with mode 3. As I
lowered the mixture with 7 or 8 pushes the rpm came up a bit, then started
to slow down again. At the best rpm the EC2 is showing slightly higher than
center on the mixture. I tried switching off either set of coils and felt a
degradation with either off. Disabling secondary injectors killed the
engine. Primaries didn't make much difference. I checked compression. 105#
on each rotor.

My next thought is to check that cold start is operating properly, but I'm
pretty sure it is because the engine slowed down when I tried switching it
on.

I spoke with Tracy and he suspects fuel, possibly a bad connection in the
injector wiring, so tomorrow I'll rewire the entire injector circuit if
necessary.

I'm so glad Rusty still doesn't have power. I'm not in any mood for jokes :(

Thoughts anyone???

Frustrated in West Palm

John,   It sounds as though you've done the basic trouble-
shooting.  For whatever reason, your EC2 is trying to run the engine solely (or nearly so) on the secondary
injectors.    IIRC, it's supposed to do that if it loses the primaries, isn't it?  How does it know that the primaries are "gone"? High resistance?  Could you have a high impedance connection to your primary injectors?  A static voltage check most likely would find that.  It will only show up when working current is flowing (or, rather, *trying* to).

Dale R.




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