Return-Path: Received: from [192.55.52.31] (HELO fmsfmr004.fm.intel.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.1) with ESMTP id 409168 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:38:00 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=192.55.52.31; envelope-from=randy.smith@intel.com Received: from talaria.fm.intel.com (talaria.fm.intel.com [10.1.192.39]) by fmsfmr004.fm.intel.com (8.12.9-20030918-01/8.12.9/d: major-outer.mc,v 1.15 2004/01/30 18:16:28 root Exp $) with ESMTP id i8DJe0kU029324 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:40:00 GMT Received: from fmsmsxvs042.fm.intel.com (fmsmsxvs042.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.128]) by talaria.fm.intel.com (8.12.9-20030918-01/8.12.9/d: major-inner.mc,v 1.11 2004/07/29 22:51:53 root Exp $) with SMTP id i8DJe0d9014004 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:40:24 GMT Received: from fmsmsx332.amr.corp.intel.com ([132.233.42.148]) by fmsmsxvs042.fm.intel.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.2.35) with SMTP id M2004091312372912800 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:37:29 -0700 Received: from fmsmsx404.amr.corp.intel.com ([132.233.42.208]) by fmsmsx332.amr.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:37:28 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C499C9.1A75AE86" Subject: Limp home mode Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:37:28 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Limp home mode Thread-Index: AcSZyRnehp+26F5SQ0a97Mxp7sZlAQ== From: "Smith, Randy" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2004 19:37:28.0890 (UTC) FILETIME=[1AB719A0:01C499C9] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.31 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C499C9.1A75AE86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gentlepeople, I am rather new to the list and normally I just lurk until I have something to say. Well, in breaking with that mode I have some thoughts that I would like some opinions on so if you're game, here goes... 1. I am building a Cozy MKIV. It uses an NACA scoop embedded in the belly to provide cooling air. I am thinking of not building the NACA scoop as I plan to use some sort of Meredith effect scoop/plenum (ala the P-51) for cooling. Thoughts? 2. I plan to fly this plane on long flights over water (around the world is one of my goals.) Is there an ignition/injection system that provides some sort of limp home capability such as what is in the Cadillac Northstar systems that allows for intermittent firing of the rotors? This to provide partial power in situations where I lose coolant overboard and hopefully, relying on oil cooling, continue to safety. If not, what is the proper way to ensure redundancy of the cooling system? 3. In reading several web sites regarding around the world travel, it appears that apart from endless bureaucracy and outrageous landing/handling fees, the largest problem is fuel availability. Most parts of the world have no use for 100ll or appear to have never heard of it. (just kidding, it has to be specially ordered in many places and sometimes it is quite suspect.) Is the rotary particular about the fuel used? I am interested in the SCORE technology that John Deere came up with and would really love a diesel rotary in this regard. Diesel/Jet A/Kerosene is available almost everywhere. That is enough for now. My brain hurts. -Randy "Still looking for a ride to Rough River" Smith Columbia, SC ------_=_NextPart_001_01C499C9.1A75AE86 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Limp home mode

Gentlepeople,

I am = rather new to the list and normally I just lurk until I have something = to say.  Well, in breaking with that mode I have some thoughts that I would = like some opinions on so if you’re game, here goes…

1.      = I am building a Cozy MKIV.  It uses an = NACA scoop embedded in the belly to provide cooling air.  I am = thinking of not building the NACA scoop as I plan to use some sort = of Meredith effect scoop/plenum (ala the P-51) for = cooling.  Thoughts?

2.      = I plan to fly this plane on long flights = over water (around the world is one of my goals.) Is there an = ignition/injection system that provides some sort of limp home = capability such as what is in the Cadillac Northstar systems that allows for = intermittent firing of the rotors?  This to provide = partial power in situations where I lose coolant = overboard and hopefully, relying on oil cooling, continue to = safety.  If not, what is the proper way to ensure redundancy of the = cooling system?

3.      = In reading several web sites regarding = around the world travel, it appears that apart from endless bureaucracy = and outrageous landing/handling fees, the largest problem is fuel = availability.  Most parts of the world have no use for 100ll or = appear to have never heard of it. (just kidding, it has to be specially = ordered in many places and sometimes it is quite = suspect.)  Is the rotary particular about the fuel used?  I am = interested in the SCORE technology that John Deere came up with and = would really love a diesel rotary in this regard.  Diesel/Jet = A/Kerosene is available almost everywhere.

That = is enough for now.  My brain hurts.

-Randy “Still looking for a ride to Rough River” Smith

Columbia, SC

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