Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao10.cox.net ([68.230.241.29] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.1) with ESMTP id 408096 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:27:36 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.29; envelope-from=daveleonard@cox.net Received: from smtp.west.cox.net ([172.18.180.57]) by fed1rmmtao10.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02.01 201-2131-111-104-103-20040709) with SMTP id <20040913022705.SSDE16942.fed1rmmtao10.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:27:05 -0400 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.15 (webedge20-101-1103-20040528) From: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: high oil pressure and coolers Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:27:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20040913022705.SSDE16942.fed1rmmtao10.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> Sorry Ed, My mistake. Dave do not archive > > Yeah! Dave those are fighting words. {:>). > > Actually, I started out with a non-Mazda oil cooler which did not do the > job which relates to all the tales of Woe about my oil cooling. I then > switched to the Stock Mazda oil cooler and put it up under the spinner and > have had fine cooling ever since. Not to say there are not equal or better > coolers out there, but the performance of my oil cooler with a 22 sq inch > inlet opening has worked fine for my power output. I think that moving the > position of the cooler from near the firewall where its exit flow was > hindered up under the spinner was probably what really did the job. > > Ed > . > Ed Anderson > RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > Matthews, NC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Carter" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:51 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: high oil pressure and coolers > > > > Dave, > > > > Do you have photo(s) of your oil cooler and how air is ducted to it? Ed's > > initial problem was a duct that blasted most air thru one end of long > cooler > > and rest wasn't getting its "share" of air. > > > > I'm thinking "duct" is more important than "Setrab" or "Mazda" or "A/C > > core". > > > > David > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 11:58 AM > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: high oil pressure and coolers > > > > > > > Well, to be honest guys, the stock oil cooler does not work that well. > > Most who use it, including Tracy and Ed, have dealt with significant > > problems trying to cool their oil. Both guys had to cut their first > flights > > short because of high oil temps, and both eventually had to do significant > > tweaking of the oil cooling system. > > > > > > My setrab by comparison has cooled very well from first flight. The > > highest my oil temp has ever been was 192, and that was on an extended > > climbout at 32"MAP and 90 KTS - coolant finally overheated. In cruise my > > oil temps run between 140 and 160. > > > > > > The Setrab also fit better under the cowl, is readily available and > comes > > with any size AN or NPT or Metric fitting you want to use. They cost 2-3 > > hundred bucks - not cheap but not super expensive. > > > > > > The "big book" is not a stone tablet. Thank goodness for Tracy and Ed. > > Without them I could never have considered doing this project. But don't > > forget that the "big book" also says to use a 2.17:1 plenary drive with 4 > > planets ;-) > > > > > > So stop picking on Rusty. What with the PTSD from that whole BUC > > experience and a hurricane headed his way dosen't he have enough problems? > > > > > > Dave Leonard - Did a fly over at sevenstock yesterday, turned out great. > > That is a great event for a rotor head. Got to hear the 4 rotor leManz > > (sp?) winner running as well as several other race cars.