Return-Path: <13brv3@bellsouth.net> Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.72] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.1) with ESMTP id 407549 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 12:19:31 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.72; envelope-from=13brv3@bellsouth.net Received: from rd ([65.6.194.9]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20040912161903.BBBU18351.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@rd> for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 12:19:03 -0400 From: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net> To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: high oil pressure and coolers Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 11:19:26 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c498e4$45bbd680$6101a8c0@rd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C498BA.5CE5CE80" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C498BA.5CE5CE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The important point is that Rusty likes to do it the hard way :) I think that he firmly believes that "experimental" needs to be followed to the letter. Why benefit from other's results when you can do the experiment yourself :) Now wait just a minute :-) =20 =20 While some of the above is clearly true, I had very good reason to try = the evap core, and it was based on Tracy's results. He recently mentioned = that he never goes over 210 degrees for oil, but he didn't mention that his = SOP is to reduce power almost immediately after takeoff. If I'm not = mistaken, he did this with his B drive also, to keep from overheating. He also = climbs at 130 mph or so. With my evap core, I could climb forever at 90 mph without exceeding 200 degrees when I had the B drive. It's only now = that I'm making more power that it becomes a limitation. Tracy's an = efficiency freak , so he's willing to give up some extended climb performance to reduce cooling drag in cruise. My philosophy is that I want to be able = to use all the power, all the time, without overheating. =20 =20 So if you want better oil cooler performance, what do you use. Let's = see, what is Tracy putting on his 3 rotor RV-8 project. Last I heard, it was = an evap core :-)=20 =20 I didn't get my test fitting in time to check the pressure at the engine outlet, so that test will wait until later this week, assuming Ivan = makes that a moot point. In thinking about oil cooling options, I'd still = like to have a water to oil cooler, but I'd have to make the 3rd evap core = water also, and also add the new heat exchanger. Unfortunately, that would = add too much weight. =20 =20 As for Ivan, it seems John's anti-hurricane mojo is more powerful than = mine at the moment. I seem to be getting closer and closer to the center of prediction with every report. It's almost certain that it will hit = here, and destroy my hanger, since I now have the new Slingshot in there also. = Of course they both have liability coverage. It's still way too early to = worry about that. =20 =20 Rusty (working on my mojo) =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C498BA.5CE5CE80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

The important point is that Rusty likes to do it the = hard
way=20 :)
I think that he firmly believes that "experimental" needs to be=20 followed
to the letter. Why benefit from other's results when you can = do=20 the
experiment yourself :)

Now wait = just a minute=20 :-) 
 
While = some of the above=20 is clearly true, I had very good reason to try the evap core, and it was = based=20 on Tracy's results.  He recently mentioned that he never = goes=20 over 210 degrees for oil, but he didn't mention that his SOP is = to reduce=20 power almost immediately after takeoff.  If I'm not mistaken, = he did=20 this with his B drive also, to keep from overheating.  He also = climbs at=20 130 mph or so.  With my evap core, I could climb forever at 90 mph = without=20 exceeding 200 degrees when I had the B drive.  It's only now that = I'm=20 making more power that it becomes a limitation.   Tracy's an=20 efficiency freak <G>, so he's willing to give up some extended = climb=20 performance to reduce cooling drag in cruise.  My philosophy is = that I want=20 to be able to use all the power, all the time, without = overheating. =20
 
So if you want better oil cooler = performance, what do you use.  Let's see, what is Tracy putting on=20 his 3 rotor RV-8 project.  Last I heard, it was an evap core=20 :-) 
 
I didn't get my = test fitting in time to=20 check the pressure at the engine outlet, so that test will wait = until later=20 this week, assuming Ivan makes that a moot point.  =  In=20 thinking about oil cooling options, I'd still like to have a water = to oil=20 cooler, but I'd have to make the 3rd evap core water also, and also = add the=20 new heat exchanger.   Unfortunately, that would = add too much=20 weight. 
 
As for Ivan, it seems John's = anti-hurricane=20 mojo is more powerful than mine at the moment.  I seem to be=20 getting closer and closer to the center of prediction with = every=20 report.  It's almost certain that it will hit here, and destroy my = hanger,=20 since I now have the new Slingshot in there also.  Of course = they both=20 have liability coverage.  It's still way too early to worry = about=20 that. 
 
Rusty (working on my = mojo)
 
 


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