Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.102] (HELO ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.1) with ESMTP id 400870 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:53:59 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.102; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from EDWARD (cpe-069-132-183-211.carolina.rr.com [69.132.183.211]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i87HrSiB010242 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 13:53:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000d01c49503$9ae2c590$2402a8c0@EDWARD> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Photos of Core tanks internals Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 13:53:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Joe, I didn't measure the thickness, but as best I recall it was 3 3/8" -3 1/2" thick. I'll measure it next time down to the shop. Rainfall rate here was just reported as 1" /hour, so not a deluge but pretty heavy rain. Ed Ed Anderson RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph M Berki" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 1:26 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Photos of Core tanks internals > Ed, > Is the core pictured 3.75" thick? Thanks > > Joe Berki > Limo EZ > > At 12:38 PM 9/7/2004 -0400, you (Ed Anderson) wrote: > >Well, David, I just went down to the shop through the pouring remnants of > >Frances and cut open each side tank of a core I had taken from the junkyard > >years ago. > > > >The photos are attached and speak for themselves - no dividers or other > >impediments to coolant flow in the tanks - pretty clean channel from top to > >bottom. Each "row" has 5 approx 1/8" (perhaps slightly larger) dia holes > >that conduct the water through the core to the opposite side tank. So 14 > >rows * 5 * area of 1/8-3/16" dia hole would give a cross flow channel area > >of around 0.86 sq inches to 1.93 sq inches - probably toward the larger > >figure. > > > >So as Bill suggested they may have redesigned the heat exchangers to take a > >different approach to recondensing the refrigerant calling for the divider > >plate. Given the relatively small cross channels, it is my opinion that a > >serpentine cooler is probably offering considerably more resistance to flow. > >Some of the radiator shop webpages give an estimate of the increase in flow > >resistance of a Serpentine core over the straight through - as best I recall > >it was something like 4 times as best I recall. > > > >So, its clear that not all GM evaporator cores are created the same way. > >This one was from the an late 80s early 90s Cadillac. I looked all over for > >some identifying model number but could not find anything. I do recall it > >had a yellow sticker with a black C on it when I yanked it. > > > >In any case, it looks like we can not simply order just any GM cooler core. > >I suspect that when they switched over to the more environmental friendly > >refrigerant then there could have been some redesign of the core, but just > >speculation on my part. > > > >Here's the photos > > > >Ed. > > > > > >Ed Anderson > >RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > >Matthews, NC > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "David Carter" > >To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > >Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 11:55 AM > >Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Water pump problem > > > > > > > Thanks, Ed. > > > > > > I wonder Steve Brooks's core with a "plate" is different from the > > > GM/Harrison cores that I have (Chev'y Caprice). > > > - When I probed my core last night and found no plates in the end cap > > > with the larger of the two welded tubes, I DIDN'T check the other side - > > > those smaller 1/2" OD tubes turn 90 degrees and run about a foot, so I > >never > > > probed that side. That is the side that has the little "filter" and/or > > > "expansion jet" thing sitting about an inch down inside. Perhaps there's > >a > > > plate on that side that matches what has been discussed recently. > > > > > > If Steve's core is a typical GM/Harrison core, then I'd like to understand > > > more about which end "the plate" is in and tell us more about "the tube > >that > > > was removed". I've not yet cut into any of my cores to mod the fittings, > >so > > > am ignorant of the insides. > > > > > > David > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ed Anderson" > > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 6:54 AM > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Water pump problem > > > > > > > > > > Hey, David, not to worry. We have all hit the "Send" button on an e > >mail > > > or > > > > two and later wondered why we did. {:>) > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > Ed Anderson > > > > RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > > > > Matthews, NC > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html