Return-Path: Received: from smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com ([66.163.168.182] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with SMTP id 394715 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 05 Sep 2004 22:38:24 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.163.168.182; envelope-from=dcarter@datarecall.net Received: from unknown (HELO Davidscmptr) (dcarter11@sbcglobal.net@216.63.106.150 with login) by smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2004 02:37:53 -0000 Message-ID: <089d01c493ba$6a802680$6401a8c0@Davidscmptr> Reply-To: "David Carter" From: "David Carter" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Rev 3.1 static tests Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 21:37:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Just a word about MAP: In a friend's Mooney with paper air filter element, his MAP was 1" below local station pressure. In a Cessna 182 with oiled foam rubber filter, the difference was 2". I never hear the rotary folks talk about filters - I think most are using NO filter, so my comments above are N/A. - But, if you use a filter - there is a difference in pressure drop thru different type filters. So, I would view a 2" drop as normal if using an oiled foam filter. Maybe we can normalize our reports as "MAP reading difference (below) station pressure" (for Normally Aspirated). Then in the air, we should all be hoping for "ram air effect" if we use "racing type inlets really close to the prop", we would hope to see MAP greater than atmospheric for the altitude we are running high speed at (like 50' off the runway at sunup with no wind for speed checks, etc) David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 9:25 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Rev 3.1 static tests Greetings, Well, my week of fiberglass hell seems to have paid off. As you may recall, I got 5500 rpm with my old inlet ducting, 5700 with the ducting removed, 5820 with the ducting removed, and short air horns on the TB. Today, with all the new inlet installed, I got 6000 static. I'm pretty happy about this. Tracy reported 6200 at 120-130mph in climb, and I'm sure I can top that now. I only saw 27 MAP at full throttle static though, but I can't say I ever tried this when I thought all was well (and was NA). Has anyone tied their plane down, and run full throttle to see what the MAP actually reads? 27 still sounds low, but I just don't think it can be improved in the current configuration, and may just be a reporting error from the way the ports are mounted in the TB. The downside to all this success is cooling. I used to be able to run on the ground for minutes at full throttle without overheating. Not anymore. I exceed 200 in seconds at full throttle, and I saw a max of about 220 degrees for both water and oil during my brief-as-possible runs today. The water might be OK on climb with some airflow, but the oil is going to overheat quickly. It doesn't make sense to have more power, and not be able to use it, so I'm sure my next big project is to improve the oil cooling. Fortunately, after next weekend, I'll have a SlingShot to fly, while I fiddle with the RV-3 for the rest of my life :-) Cheers, Rusty (one solution, leads to a new problem)