X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 12:55:12 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.147] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5042013 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:46:51 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.105.147; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p64Hk77U027787 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:46:07 -0400 Received: from core-mte002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.69]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 548ADE000081 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:46:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <1a395.7b6b04b6.3b43565f@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [LML] n23ph X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1a395.7b6b04b6.3b43565f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5004 X-AOL-IP: 24.15.17.119 X-Originating-IP: [24.15.17.119] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:476109792:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb4e11fc5f0366 --part1_1a395.7b6b04b6.3b43565f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uh, the section aft of the rollover is tail down, fwd of that it is upright with most of a wing gone - might be a violent spin in? Grayhawk In a message dated 7/4/2011 10:57:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, colyncase@earthlink.net writes: Jeff, are you able to get any info on Peter's accident? Most of us at his home base think he ran out of gas but it would be really useful to know if the NTSB found any fuel in the tanks. There were obviously many opportunities for him to avoid that situation but aside from that I have an additional question. If you look at the debris field, it appears that he pancaked in. e.g. stalled at 50-100'. Have you seen this before in accident investigations? What would make a pilot do that? On Jul 3, 2011, at 11:46 AM, _vtailjeff@aol.com_ (mailto:vtailjeff@aol.com) wrote: I think this makes seven thus far this calendar year. All 320/360 and Legacy's. Jeff Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: "Mike Fisher" <_MikeF@lancair.com_ (mailto:MikeF@lancair.com) > Date: July 2, 2011 2:43:31 PM CDT To: "Kim Lorentzen" <_KimL@lancair.com_ (mailto:KimL@lancair.com) >, <_vtailjeff@aol.com_ (mailto:vtailjeff@aol.com) > Subject: NewsOK (http://m.newsok.com/pilot-killed-in-oklahoma-city-plane-crash-is-identified-as-san-antonio-man/article/3582065?custom_click=headlines_widget) _http://m.newsok.com/pilot-killed-in-oklahoma-city-plane-crash-is-identified-as-san- antonio-man/article/3582065?custom_click=headlines_widget_ (http://m.newsok.com/pilot-killed-in-oklahoma-city-plane-crash-is-identified-as-san-antonio-m an/article/3582065?custom_click=headlines_widget) Mike Fisher (mailto:mikef@lancair.com) _mikef@lancair.com_ (mailto:mikef@lancair.com) 541.788.4225 = --part1_1a395.7b6b04b6.3b43565f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Uh, the section aft of the rollover is tail down, fwd of that it is up= right=20 with most of a wing gone - might be a violent spin in?

Grayhawk

In a message dated 7/4/2011 10:57:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 colyncase@earthlink.net writes:

= Jeff,=20 are you able to get any info on Peter's accident? Mos= t of=20 us at his home base think he ran out of gas but it would be really useful= to=20 know if the NTSB found any fuel in the tanks.=20

There were obviously many opportunities for him to avoid that situat= ion=20 but aside from that I have an additional question.

If you look at the debris field, it appears that he pancaked in.=20 e.g. stalled at 50-100'. Have you seen this before in acciden= t=20 investigations? What would make a pilot do that?

On Jul 3, 2011, at 11:46 AM, vtailjeff@aol.com wrote:

I think this makes seven thus far this calendar year. All 320/360 = and=20 Legacy's.

Jeff

Sent from my iPad

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Sub= ject:=20 NewsOK

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Mike=20 Fisher
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