X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 12:55:12 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [198.64.152.110] (HELO sdc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5042110 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:41:20 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.64.152.110; envelope-from=Ronald@sdc.com Received: from [192.168.0.14] [68.202.59.0] by sdc.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.5) id 0c1a00009d2ebe0e; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:30:59 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.0.0.100825 X-Original-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:40:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [LML] n23ph From: Ronald STEVENS X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LML] n23ph In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3392646043_30953720" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3392646043_30953720 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I am curious as well, it seemed to me he would have a better chance just going down on the belly, and in that case a combination of high-G seats (Oregon Aero) and Seat belt airbags (AmSafe) could helped a lot, right? (th= e surroundings don't look to bad, it would be very bumpy but =8A=8A.I might be just too optimistic?) -- Ronald From: Colyn Case Reply-To: Lancair Mailing List Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 11:54:42 -0400 To: Subject: [LML] n23ph Jeff, are you able to get any info on Peter's accident? Most of us at his home base think he ran out of gas but it would be really useful to know if the NTSB found any fuel in the tanks. There were obviously many opportunities for him to avoid that situation but aside from that I have an additional question. If you look at the debris field, it appears that he pancaked in. e.g. stalled at 50-100'. Have you seen this before in accident investigations? What would make a pilot do that? On Jul 3, 2011, at 11:46 AM, vtailjeff@aol.com wrote: > I think this makes seven thus far this calendar year. All 320/360 and > Legacy's. >=20 > Jeff >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 > Begin forwarded message: >=20 >> From: "Mike Fisher" >> Date: July 2, 2011 2:43:31 PM CDT >> To: "Kim Lorentzen" , >> Subject: NewsOK >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> =20 >> > as-san-antonio-man/article/3582065?custom_click=3Dheadlines_widget> >> http://m.newsok.com/pilot-killed-in-oklahoma-city-plane-crash-is-identif= ied-a >> s-san-antonio-man/article/3582065?custom_click=3Dheadlines_widget >>=20 >> Mike Fisher >> mikef@lancair.com >> 541.788.4225 --B_3392646043_30953720 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

I am curious = as well, it seemed to me he would have a better chance just going down on th= e belly, and in that case a combination of high-G seats (Oregon Aero) and Se= at belt airbags (AmSafe) could helped a lot, right? (the surroundings don't = look to bad, it would be very bumpy but …….I might be just too o= ptimistic?)

-- Ronald

From: Colyn Case <colyncase@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: Lancair Mailing List <lml@lancaironline.net>
Dat= e: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 11:54:42 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.ne= t>
Subject: [LML] n23ph
=

Jeff,   are you abl= e to get any info on Peter's accident?    Most of us at his home b= ase think he ran out of gas but it would be really useful to know if the NTS= B found any fuel in the tanks.

There were obviously many = opportunities for him to avoid that situation but aside from that I have an = additional question.
If you look at the debris field, it appears t= hat he pancaked in.  e.g. stalled at 50-100'.  Have you seen this = before in accident investigations?  What would make a pilot do that?


On Jul 3, 2011, at 11:46 AM,= vtailjeff@aol.com wrote:

I think this makes seven thus far this calendar year. All 320/360 an= d Legacy's.

Jeff

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

F= rom: "Mike Fisher" <MikeF@lancair.= com>
Date: July 2, 2011 2:43:31 PM CDT
To: "Kim L= orentzen" <KimL@lancair.com>, &l= t;vtailjeff@aol.com>
Subject= : NewsOK


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