X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:10:15 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net ([72.167.82.87] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with SMTP id 5038645 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:33:40 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=72.167.82.87; envelope-from=jayph@fastairplane.net Received: (qmail 11432 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2011 19:33:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (174.126.244.48) by p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.87) with ESMTP; 30 Jun 2011 19:33:04 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Jay Phillips" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Odds of...... X-Original-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:33:00 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <00c101cc375c$86289ff0$9279dfd0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acw3HAbS5A3NyBxgReSiRvhFfyJVLgAPlcfA Content-Language: en-us The inherent fallacy of this approach is that it assumes that each time we depart on a flight we roll the dice to see if we are going to die. In a very high percentage (I don't know exact numbers) of the fatal accidents in Lancairs the results would have been very different if the PIC had made different decisions and/or taken different actions. Many of us have heard the statistic that four out of five small businesses fail within five years. A mentor explained to me that I should choose to make my business the one out of five that succeeds. A study of historical Lancair accident rates would be only that - history. To a large extent (in this context at least) all of us can choose which statistic we want to be. The data is out there. NTSB has a very large and detailed database. It is somewhat difficult to separate Lancairs or specific Lancair models due to inconsistencies in how that information is entered. I understand that LOBO or someone in LOBO (Jeff Edwards?) has compiled/extracted a lot of data on the subject. Jay -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bryan Wullner Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:51 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Odds of...... I don't even feel good about asking this. But the thought popped into my head the other day. Has anyone come up with a percentage number or odds that you could have a fatal accident in a lancair over a given amount of hours in it? Or for each time you take to the sky? Example: you fly X number of hours in a 300 series. Your chances of having a fatal in it accident in that time is??? Any data like this out there?? Can it even be determined. I imagine it could or insurance companies must have this data. Bryan -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html