X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 07:51:17 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5037474 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:36:36 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.33.127.80; envelope-from=troneill@charter.net Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20110629203602.BDBH4013.mta11.charter.net@imp09> for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:36:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([75.132.241.174]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id 1wc21h0013mUFT705wc2uP; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:36:02 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1b2X7W/SifksZeClH/haT1SUt4udqxFGF00pZw2/jJk= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=VxlS/kh5Y2KhHY/Xui1ATg==:17 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=vpGSRPGSJ30a_BbXF4AA:9 a=a262rPHGm0lf3UtIvwIA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CVU0O5Kb7MsA:10 a=HW2h5ilBNQYuv8-O:21 a=pJmGQgFu9sYr6p9S:21 a=VxlS/kh5Y2KhHY/Xui1ATg==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Fin From: Terrence O'Neill In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:36:01 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: <8B3BCA7D-EA21-4C47-B7B0-5F97B57A5C65@charter.net> References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) No excuse for aft CG. Ballast can always be added. T On Jun 29, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ted Noel wrote: > This also suggests that gear extension should be part of stall = recovery. >=20 > Ted Noel > N540TF >=20 > On 6/29/2011 11:26 AM, Giffen Marr wrote: >> Before I started to build my IV-P, I reviewed the accident history of = the IV.What I found was a significant number of stall spin accidents in = the IV. Why a higher rate then other aircraft? =46rom my analysis, I = felt there were two reasons, one,the aircraft tended to have an aft CG, = and two, the tail became blanketed in the spin, causing difficulty in = recovery. My un-flown solution was to move as much weight forward as I = could, add stall strips, add the ventral fin and add about 48 square = inches of area to the rudder trailing edge. You must also remember that = when you retract the gear, the cg moves aft about 2 inches. With an aft = CG, the aircraft will tend to go flat in the spin, which makes recovery = difficult. >>=20 >> Giff Marr >> N229GM >> 1st engine run before AirVenture. >> -- >> For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >>=20 >>=20 >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3733 - Release Date: = 06/29/11 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html