X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:05:59 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.207.163] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5030104 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:59:02 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.207.163; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.133]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p5NGwIWG021201 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:58:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.5.191] (rrcs-24-43-226-130.west.biz.rr.com [24.43.226.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 3B4FFE0000E1; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:58:17 -0400 (EDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8C148) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-47--171385287 X-Original-Message-Id: <024AD411-9764-412A-ADAD-057ACB6C0C69@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8C148) From: vtailjeff@aol.com Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for L... X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 06:58:12 -1000 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:323578176:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33854e0370a96bf2 X-AOL-IP: 24.43.226.130 --Apple-Mail-47--171385287 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Then I recommend you get upset training from Rich Stowell. As to the airplan= e, I would recommend you hire Len Fox to do a flight test series on it and p= lace the recommended shapes on the wing as directed. I also recommend the in= stallation and proper calibration of an angle of attack system. Finally, ded= icated recurrent training is also strongly recommended. Jeff Sent from my iPad On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:11 AM, "Wolfgang" wrote: > I, for one, want to be able to recover from an "adverse" condition should I= ever find myself in one. > Knowing where the edges of the envelope are and how to get beck in the env= elope should be required. > If the airframe can't get back in the envelope, then the airframe needs to= be fixed. > =20 > Wolfgang > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Karen Farnsworth > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:12 PM > Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for L..= . >=20 > David, > =20 > I have no problem with anyone who wants to explore the =E2=80=9Cenvelope=E2= =80=9D of his/her airplane. However, I take great exception to you grounding= me because I might choose to not get as near to the edge as you. > =20 > Lynn Farnsworth > Super Legacy #235 > TSIO-550 Powered > Reno Race #44 > Mmo .6 > =20 > I agree 100% also. > If you don=E2=80=99t know what the incipient stall feels like in the stick= and the airframe you should not be flying the Legacy or 320=E2=80=99s.=20 > (Not knowing this is the single biggest killer of Lancair pilots.) > =20 > David T. > Legacy > =20 > > --Apple-Mail-47--171385287 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Then I recommend you get upset training= from Rich Stowell. As to the airplane, I would recommend you hire Len Fox t= o do a flight test series on it and place the recommended shapes on the wing= as directed. I also recommend the installation and proper calibration of an= angle of attack system. Finally, dedicated recurrent training is also stron= gly recommended.

Jeff

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On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:11 AM, "Wolfgang" <Wolfgang@MiCom.net> wrote:

I, for one, want to be able to recover f= rom an=20 "adverse" condition should I ever find myself in one.
Knowing where the edges of the envelope= are and how=20 to get beck in the envelope should be required.
If the airframe can't get back in the e= nvelope,=20 then the airframe needs to be fixed.
 
Wolfgang
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:12= =20 PM
Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds= , Wing=20 Cuffs, Vortex Generators for L...

David,

 

I have no probl= em=20 with anyone who wants to explore the =E2=80=9Cenvelope=E2=80=9D of his/her= airplane. However,=20 I take great exception to you grounding me because I might choose to not g= et=20 as near to the edge as you.

 

Lynn=20 Farnsworth

Super Legacy=20= #235

TSIO-550=20 Powered

Reno Race=20 #44

Mmo=20 .6

 

I agr= ee 100%=20 also.

If yo= u don=E2=80=99t=20 know what the incipient stall feels like in the stick and the airframe you= =20 should not be flying the Legacy or 320=E2=80=99s.  =

(Not k= nowing=20 this is the single biggest killer of Lancair=20 pilots.)

=  

David= =20 T.

Legac= y

=  

>=20

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