X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:11:43 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.17] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5029954 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:01:10 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.17; envelope-from=j.hafen@comcast.net Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zT0Q1g0010EPchoAAT0ZRN; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:00:33 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.5] ([24.17.111.171]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zT0k1g00q3hvfg88MT0lDj; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:00:46 +0000 From: John Hafen Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-68--178449690 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Pictures of Rosen's on a IVP X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:00:31 -0700 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: <90150E35-9941-49E1-A56C-CC1F66FC4BED@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-68--178449690 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I looked yesterday and didn't see a model number. I ordered the ones = specifically for the IVP. Rosen has an interesting pricing model. It mirrors the IBM mainframe = pricing model for software years ago. Essentially, the same software = cost more, if you were going to license it for a bigger more expensive = box. The Rosen product is the same (other than shape) from plane to plane, = but if you look at the price list, the Rosen's for Cessna 152s and 172s = are pretty cheap, IVP's cost more, and if you want them for a certified = turbo prop or jet, you pay a fortune. That said, I've had Rosens in both of my planes and wouldn't heave home = without them. John On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:56 PM, F. Barry Knotts wrote: John, Are your Rosen's the model that Rosen identifies for the Lancair IVP? = Do you have a model number? (I like the grab handle, too!) Barry Knotts Lancair IVP On 6/22/2011 2:12 PM, John Hafen wrote: >=20 > In response to Colyn's questions about the positioning of Rosen's in a = IVP: >=20 >=20 > I think the trick is to plan to stow them in the forward position. It = doesn't limit visibility or cramp your head room. =20 >=20 > The grab handle below the visor is much appreciated by passengers. = It's from a BMW 540i. I put one on both sides so I can hang on when the = passenger is flying. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > This is a bad photo because of the reflection, but it shows the pilot = side visor while I'm standing on the left wing looking down into the = cockpit. Stowing the visors forward gently extends the roof line of the = top of the cockpit. It doesn't limit visibility but takes the edge off = on a sunny day. Which happens about twice a year here in Seattle. I = installed the Rosens for traveling outside the state. Wouldn't need = them otherwise, but would go sun blind without them once I get out of = Seattle. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > They can flop to the side to keep the sun out, and actually extend = more rearward if you loosen the little red knob. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Lowered for flying directly into the sun in some other state than = Washington. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I installed the left visor on the right and the right on the left such = that I could have the little hair snagging, scalp gouging, red knobs = ABOVE the visor where they can't disfigure you and make your wife scream = at you. =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hope this helps. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > John Hafen > N413AJ 300+ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jun 14, 2011, at 4:56 AM, Colyn Case wrote: >=20 > Okay John, I'll take that bait. > So tell me how you mounted your Rosen's in your IVP.=20 > I looked at it, and besides the fact that my Bose X headset rides = about 3mm below the headliner, I couldn't figure out where to amount and = how to fully articulate so they actually do the right thing in a IVP. >=20 > Colyn >=20 > On Jun 13, 2011, at 4:29 PM, John Hafen wrote: >=20 >> I highly recommend a IVP. With Rosen Sun Visors. >>=20 >> John Hafen >> IVP, with Rosen Sun Visors..... >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jun 13, 2011, at 9:48 AM, Steve Colwell wrote: >>=20 >> =20 >> For the Legacy folks, what have you found to be the best canopy = shade?=20 >> =20 >> I highly recommend the Koger Sunshade. It is lightweight, easily = adjustable in flight, takes up minimal headroom and looks pretty good = too. http://www.kogersunshades.com/ =20 >> =20 >> Steve Colwell Legacy >> =20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-68--178449690 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = looked yesterday and didn't see a model number.  I ordered the ones = specifically for the IVP.

Rosen has an interesting = pricing model.  It mirrors the IBM mainframe pricing model for = software years ago.  Essentially, the same software cost more, if = you were going to license it for a bigger more expensive = box.

The Rosen product is the same (other than = shape) from plane to plane, but if you look at the price list, the = Rosen's for Cessna 152s and 172s are pretty cheap, IVP's cost more, and = if you want them for a certified turbo prop or jet, you pay a = fortune.

That said, I've had Rosens in both of = my planes and wouldn't heave home without = them.

John


On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:56 PM, F. Barry Knotts wrote:

John,
Are your Rosen's the model that Rosen identifies for the Lancair IVP?  Do you have a model number?  (I like the grab = handle, too!)

Barry Knotts
Lancair IVP

On 6/22/2011 2:12 PM, John Hafen wrote:
In response to Colyn's questions about the positioning of Rosen's in a IVP:


I think the trick is to plan to stow them in the forward position.  It doesn't limit visibility or cramp your head = room.  

The grab handle below the visor is much appreciated by passengers.  It's from a BMW 540i.  I put one on both = sides so I can hang on when the passenger is flying.





This is a bad photo because of the reflection, but it shows the pilot side visor while I'm standing on the left wing looking down into the cockpit.  Stowing the visors = forward gently extends the roof line of the top of the cockpit. =  It doesn't limit visibility but takes the edge off on a sunny day.  Which happens about twice a year here in Seattle. =  I installed the Rosens for traveling outside the state.  Wouldn't need them otherwise, but would go sun blind = without them once I get out of Seattle.





They can flop to the side to keep the sun out, and actually extend more rearward if you loosen the little red knob.




Lowered for flying directly into the sun in some other state than Washington.




I installed the left visor on the right and the right on the left such that I could have the little hair snagging, scalp gouging, red knobs ABOVE the visor where they can't disfigure you and make your wife scream at you.  





Hope this helps.

Cheers,

John Hafen
N413AJ 300+




On Jun 14, 2011, at 4:56 AM, Colyn Case wrote:

Okay John, I'll take that bait.
So tell me how you mounted your Rosen's in your = IVP. 
I looked at it, and besides the fact that my Bose X headset rides about 3mm below the headliner, I couldn't figure out where to amount and how to fully articulate so they actually do the right thing in a IVP.

Colyn

On Jun 13, 2011, at 4:29 PM, John Hafen = wrote:

I highly recommend a IVP.  With Rosen = Sun Visors.

John Hafen
IVP, with Rosen Sun Visors.....


On Jun 13, 2011, at 9:48 AM, Steve Colwell wrote:

 
For the Legacy folks, what have you found to be the best canopy = shade? 
 
I highly recommend the Koger Sunshade.  It = is lightweight, easily adjustable in flight, takes up minimal headroom and looks pretty good too.  http://www.kogersunshades.com/   
 
Steve Colwell  = Legacy
 





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