X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:00:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.32] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5025590 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:09:50 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.32; envelope-from=j.hafen@comcast.net Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id y27C1g0061afHeLA329Dg6; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:09:13 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.5] ([24.17.111.171]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id y2C31g00m3hvfg88d2C4j7; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:12:04 +0000 From: John Hafen Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-46--483928023 Subject: Re: [LML] Fw: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for Lancair 4p X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:09:13 -0700 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: <4F8857A5-4435-4277-9220-95BF2B690831@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-46--483928023 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Have you ever wondered why they don't make the IVP's any more? John Hafen On Jun 18, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Wolfgang wrote: Is it just me or does anyone else find it just a bit disturbing that the = Lancairs have such "fearsome" stall characteristics ? =20 Wolfgang =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Sky2high@aol.com To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for = Lancair 4p Bruce, =20 Au contraire, mon ami...... =20 The Advanced Systems AOA does not require stalling the aircraft. Read = for theory and calibration: = http://www.advanced-flight-systems.com/Support/AOAsupport/AOA%20Manual%20r= ev4.pdf =20 Grayhawk =20 In a message dated 6/17/2011 12:07:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, = BGray@glasair.org writes: Every single AOA I know of requires you to stall the aircraft to = calibrate the AOA. =20 Bruce WWW.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Bob Rickard Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:24 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for = Lancair 4p =20 One of the main reasons all of us IV-P owners have a hell of a time = getting insurance for our airplanes is because too many guys "explored" = the stall characteristics of their airplane (and for many it was their = last flight). I fly another airplane that can fly comfortably at 60 = degrees AOA, and have a good bit of time as an operational test pilot, = but I will never stall my IV-P intentionally. Or even get close. Like = Colyn and John, I'm 120 on downwind, 110 at the base turn and 100 on = final until the runway is assured. Unless we fly the pattern at 8000 = feet AGL, a stall will probably be fatal for any of us. Please don't be = the next one to prove this point ! =20 Bob Rickard =20 --Apple-Mail-46--483928023 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Have you ever wondered why they don't make the = IVP's any more?

John = Hafen


On Jun 18, 2011, at 5:32 PM, = Wolfgang wrote:

Is it just me or does anyone else = find it just a bit disturbing that the Lancairs have such "fearsome" = stall characteristics = ?
 
Wolfgang
 
----- Original Message -----
 Friday, = June 17, 2011 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, = Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for Lancair 4p

Bruce,
 
Au contraire, mon = ami......
 
The Advanced Systems AOA does not = require stalling the aircraft.  Read for theory and = calibration:
 
Grayhawk
 
In a message dated 6/17/2011 12:07:47 P.M. = Central Daylight Time, BGray@glasair.org writes:

Every single AOA I know of = requires you to stall the aircraft to calibrate the = AOA.

Bruce
WWW.Glasair.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List = [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob = Rickard
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 = 3:24 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, = Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for Lancair = 4p

 

One of the main reasons all of = us IV-P owners have a hell of a time getting insurance for our airplanes = is because too many guys "explored" the stall characteristics of their = airplane (and for many it was their last flight).   I fly another = airplane that can fly comfortably at 60 degrees AOA, and have a good bit = of time as an operational test pilot, but I will never stall my IV-P = intentionally.  Or even get close.  Like Colyn and John, I'm = 120 on downwind, 110 at the base turn and 100 on final until the runway = is assured.   Unless we fly the pattern at 8000 feet AGL, a stall = will probably be fatal for any of us.  Please don't be the next one = to prove this point !

Bob = Rickard


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