X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:56:11 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [205.186.160.203] (HELO server.rmcginc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTPS id 5025300 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:38:08 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.186.160.203; envelope-from=r.rickard@rcginc-us.com Received: (qmail 27887 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2011 08:37:35 -0700 Received: from ip24-56-41-43.ph.ph.cox.net (HELO ?192.168.1.102?) (24.56.41.43) by rmcomserver.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 2011 08:37:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [LML] Fw: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for Lancair 4p References: From: Bob Rickard Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-19--521827794 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8J3) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:37:29 -0700 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8J3) --Apple-Mail-19--521827794 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Performance is not Free! I would take our performance every day over having= to fly twice as slow. All you have to do is respect it and stay ahead of t= he airplane. On Jun 18, 2011, at 5:32 PM, "Wolfgang" wrote: > Is it just me or does anyone else find it just a bit disturbing that the L= ancairs have such "fearsome" stall characteristics ? > =20 > Wolfgang > =20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sky2high@aol.com > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:46 PM > Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for Lan= cair 4p >=20 > Bruce, > =20 > Au contraire, mon ami...... > =20 > The Advanced Systems AOA does not require stalling the aircraft. Read for= theory and calibration: > http://www.advanced-flight-systems.com/Support/AOAsupport/AOA%20Manual%20r= ev4.pdf > =20 > Grayhawk > =20 > In a message dated 6/17/2011 12:07:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, BGray@gl= asair.org writes: > Every single AOA I know of requires you to stall the aircraft to calibrate= the AOA. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Bruce > WWW.Glasair.org >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob= Rickard > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:24 PM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for Lancair= 4p >=20 > =20 >=20 > One of the main reasons all of us IV-P owners have a hell of a time gettin= g insurance for our airplanes is because too many guys "explored" the stall c= haracteristics of their airplane (and for many it was their last flight). I= fly another airplane that can fly comfortably at 60 degrees AOA, and have a= good bit of time as an operational test pilot, but I will never stall my IV= -P intentionally. Or even get close. Like Colyn and John, I'm 120 on downw= ind, 110 at the base turn and 100 on final until the runway is assured. Un= less we fly the pattern at 8000 feet AGL, a stall will probably be fatal for= any of us. Please don't be the next one to prove this point ! >=20 > =20 >=20 > Bob Rickard >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-19--521827794 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Performance is not Free!  I would take our performance every day over having to fly twice as slow.  All you have to do is respect it and stay ahead of the airplane.



On Jun 18, 2011, at 5:32 PM, "Wolfgang" <Wolfgang@MiCom.net> wrote:

Is it just me or does anyone else find it just a bit disturbing that the Lancairs have such "fearsome" stall characteristics ?
 
Wolfgang
 
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Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for Lancair 4p

Bruce,
 
Au contraire, mon ami......
 
The Advanced Systems AOA does not require stalling the aircraft.  Read for theory and calibration:
 
Grayhawk
 
In a message dated 6/17/2011 12:07:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, BGray@glasair.org writes:

Every single AOA I know of requires you to stall the aircraft to calibrate the AOA.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob Rickard
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:24 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for Lancair 4p

 

One of the main reasons all of us IV-P owners have a hell of a time getting insurance for our airplanes is because too many guys "explored" the stall characteristics of their airplane (and for many it was their last flight).   I fly another airplane that can fly comfortably at 60 degrees AOA, and have a good bit of time as an operational test pilot, but I will never stall my IV-P intentionally.  Or even get close.  Like Colyn and John, I'm 120 on downwind, 110 at the base turn and 100 on final until the runway is assured.   Unless we fly the pattern at 8000 feet AGL, a stall will probably be fatal for any of us.  Please don't be the next one to prove this point !

 

Bob Rickard

 

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