X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:56:11 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5025323 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:04:56 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.39; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.2]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p5JH4IQc012150 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:04:18 -0400 Received: from [10.79.12.139] (unknown [166.205.139.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id D34CDE0000BE; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:04:14 -0400 (EDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8C148) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--516628153 X-Original-Message-Id: <90CA42A7-161E-4AF4-A03C-21F9C155A447@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8C148) From: vtailjeff@aol.com Subject: Re: [LML] Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for Lancair 4p X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:04:07 -1000 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:353352000:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29024dfe2c0e3f0b X-AOL-IP: 166.205.139.27 --Apple-Mail-1--516628153 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My 2 cents. #1. Every airplane stalls and #2 if you are not minding the stor= e, it may spin. My experience teaching pilots is that not every single pilo= t knows how to recover from #1 and fewer from #2. With the advance of EFIS a= nd autopilot technology-- many are just rated passengers. Sent from my iPad On Jun 19, 2011, at 5:30 AM, "Frederick Moreno" wrote: > =20 > =20 > Is it just me or does anyone else find it just a bit disturbing that the L= ancairs have such "fearsome" stall characteristics ? > =20 > Wolfgang > =20 > Many swept wing aircraft and early high performance aircraft with high wi= ng loadings were flown with the admonition "Never stall this airplane." It i= s not something new. =20 > =20 > My instructor who was a national aerobatic champion, flew a Lancair IV aro= und the world and drives Airbus products said words to the effect "One shoul= d never be surprised when an aircraft stalls, benign behavior or otherwise. I= t means you have not been paying attention. With this aircraft and many oth= ers, particularly jet aircraft, you need to always pay attention to airspeed= ." > =20 > Pay attention to airspeed and stalls are not an issue. > =20 > Fred Moreno --Apple-Mail-1--516628153 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
My 2 cents. #1. Every airplane stalls and #2 if you are not minding the store, it may spin. My experience teaching pilots is that  not every single pilot knows how to recover from #1 and fewer from #2. With the advance of EFIS and autopilot technology-- many are just rated passengers.

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On Jun 19, 2011, at 5:30 AM, "Frederick Moreno" <frederickmoreno@bigpond.com> wrote:

 
 
Is it just me or does anyone else find it just a bit disturbing that the Lancairs have such "fearsome" stall characteristics ?
 
Wolfgang
 
Many  swept wing aircraft and early high performance aircraft with high wing loadings were flown with the admonition "Never stall this airplane."  It is not something new.  
 
My instructor who was a national aerobatic champion, flew a Lancair IV around the world and drives Airbus products said words to the effect "One should never be surprised when an aircraft stalls, benign behavior or otherwise. It means you have not been paying attention.  With this aircraft and many others, particularly jet aircraft, you need to always pay attention to airspeed."
 
Pay attention to airspeed and stalls are not an issue.
 
Fred Moreno
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