Grayhawk, I've got my own opinion of topic but it's been beat enough that I heard PETA is looking into this 'dead horse'.. I will correct one thing however, in the high performance world you still have to demonstrate approach to stall and recovery. I'm flying a Corporate Jet A burner and have done approach to stalls in the Sim AND the actualy a/c. Infact I have to do it every 6months.
Fwiw
Jarrett Johnson
----- Original Message -----
From: Sky2high@aol.com
Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011 9:30 am
Subject: [LML] Re: Fw: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for Lanca...
> Wolfgang, > > It is not disturbing. Lancairs demand respect. High performance > sometimes requires a tradeoff in low speed controlability. Every > amateur built has > different flight characteristics (actually spam cans may differ > somewhat > also). High performance jets don't require stall training > either. > > Stalls should be avoided because slick airplanes speed response is > very > quick. These airplanes generally don't stall in cruise - only in > the slow > flight regime around the stinking airport. Why drag these in > during approach > and close to stall when turbulence, microbursts or sudden wind > shifts > (shear) leave you in the lurch. If it goes wrong, it goes wrong > very fast. It
> is the uninformed pilot that can lose control because of slow > speed > maneuvering that has led the way to distressing accident stats. > > It is always interesting to look at the speed range of standard > aircraft. > Most span cans have a minimal range. Lancairs and their ilk have > a rather > broad range (max cruise to landing) and, as such, require > compromises. I > like to fly at max speeds and am willing to respect the > limitations at > lower speeds. This ain't no Cub (or LSA). > > Grayhawk > > In a message dated 6/18/2011 7:34:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > Wolfgang@MiCom.net writes: > > Is it just me or does anyone else find it just a bit disturbing > that the > Lancairs have such "fearsome" stall characteristics ? >
> Wolfgang > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: _Sky2high@aol.com_ (Sky2high@aol.com) > To: _lml@lancaironline.net_ (lml@lancaironline.net) > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:46 PM > Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex > Generators for > Lancair 4p > > > Bruce, > > Au contraire, mon ami...... > > The Advanced Systems AOA does not require stalling the aircraft. > Read for > theory and calibration: > _http://www.advanced-flight- > systems.com/Support/AOAsupport/AOA%20Manual%20rev4.pdf_ > (http://www.advanced-flight- > systems.com/Support/AOAsupport/AOA%20Manual%20rev4.pdf) > > Grayhawk > > > In a message dated 6/17/2011 12:07:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > _BGray@glasair.org_ (BGray@glasair.org) writes:
> > > Every single AOA I know of requires you to stall the aircraft to > calibrate > the AOA. > > Bruce > WWW.Glasair.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Lancair Mailing List [lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of > Bob > Rickard > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:24 PM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators > for Lancair > 4p > > One of the main reasons all of us IV-P owners have a hell of a > time > getting insurance for our airplanes is because too many guys > "explored" the stall > characteristics of their airplane (and for many it was their last > flight). > I fly another airplane that can fly comfortably at 60 degrees > AOA, and
> have a good bit of time as an operational test pilot, but I will > never stall > my IV-P intentionally. Or even get close. Like Colyn and John, > I'm 120 on > downwind, 110 at the base turn and 100 on final until the runway > is > assured. Unless we fly the pattern at 8000 feet AGL, a stall > will probably be > fatal for any of us. Please don't be the next one to prove this > point ! > > > > Bob Rickard > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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