X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:32:00 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.125] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5024599 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 12:40:54 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=71.74.56.125; envelope-from=Wolfgang@MiCom.net X-Original-Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=PfPQ8rIoTcZsncbPZjVSZ7K0hy8Zc4hmL68r4VPNpKE= c=1 sm=0 a=K33Jba2k7h4A:10 a=ttCsPuSJ-FAA:10 a=MHZY6FYWMEQOp7S43i2QIw==:17 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=F8n4ktq5AAAA:8 a=MwWsI94oAAAA:8 a=Q_2E7-RsbLBJeczSygQA:9 a=q4K86m30lRX59tSf-a8A:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=AqZ1frAUbxMA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=-Zujgq040EwA:10 a=KErdHvZWtzUg4pgHrHUA:9 a=Q1xF49PbiY-_2eX7oxsA:7 a=MHZY6FYWMEQOp7S43i2QIw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 74.218.201.50 Received: from [74.218.201.50] ([74.218.201.50:2122] helo=lobo) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 39/96-01023-5F4DCFD4; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 16:40:21 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <001a01cc2dd6$678fa460$6401a8c0@lobo> From: "Wolfgang" X-Original-To: Subject: Fw: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for Lancair 4p X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 12:40:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01CC2DB4.E04986E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CC2DB4.E04986E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is it just me or does anyone else find it just a bit disturbing that the = Lancairs have such "fearsome" stall characteristics ? Wolfgang ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sky2high@aol.com=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for = Lancair 4p Bruce, Au contraire, mon ami...... The Advanced Systems AOA does not require stalling the aircraft. Read = for theory and calibration: = http://www.advanced-flight-systems.com/Support/AOAsupport/AOA%20Manual%20= rev4.pdf Grayhawk In a message dated 6/17/2011 12:07:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, = BGray@glasair.org writes: Every single AOA I know of requires you to stall the aircraft to = calibrate the AOA. =20 Bruce WWW.Glasair.org=20 -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf = Of Bob Rickard Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:24 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Stall Speeds, Wing Cuffs, Vortex Generators for = Lancair 4p =20 One of the main reasons all of us IV-P owners have a hell of a time = getting insurance for our airplanes is because too many guys "explored" = the stall characteristics of their airplane (and for many it was their = last flight). I fly another airplane that can fly comfortably at 60 = degrees AOA, and have a good bit of time as an operational test pilot, = but I will never stall my IV-P intentionally. Or even get close. Like = Colyn and John, I'm 120 on downwind, 110 at the base turn and 100 on = final until the runway is assured. Unless we fly the pattern at 8000 = feet AGL, a stall will probably be fatal for any of us. Please don't be = the next one to prove this point ! =20 Bob Rickard =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CC2DB4.E04986E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is it just me or does anyone else find it just a bit disturbing = that the=20 Lancairs have such "fearsome" stall characteristics ?
 
Wolfgang
 
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Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 = 1:46 PM
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Bruce,
 
Au contraire, mon ami......
 
The Advanced Systems AOA does not require stalling the = aircraft. =20 Read for theory and calibration:
http://www.advanced-flight-systems.com/Support/AOAsuppo= rt/AOA%20Manual%20rev4.pdf
 
Grayhawk
 
In a message dated 6/17/2011 12:07:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, = BGray@glasair.org writes:

Every = single AOA I=20 know of requires you to stall the aircraft to calibrate the=20 AOA.

 

Bruce
WWW.Glasair.org=20

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From: Lancair=20 Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob = Rickard
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 = 3:24=20 PM
To:=20 lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Stall = Speeds, Wing=20 Cuffs, Vortex Generators for Lancair=20 4p

 

One of the = main reasons=20 all of us IV-P owners have a hell of a time getting insurance for = our=20 airplanes is because too many guys "explored" the stall = characteristics of=20 their airplane (and for many it was their last flight).   I fly = another=20 airplane that can fly comfortably at 60 degrees AOA, and have a good = bit of=20 time as an operational test pilot, but I will never stall my IV-P=20 intentionally.  Or even get close.  Like Colyn and John, = I'm 120=20 on downwind, 110 at the base turn and 100 on final until the runway = is=20 assured.   Unless we fly the pattern at 8000 feet AGL, a stall = will=20 probably be fatal for any of us.  Please don't be the next one = to prove=20 this point !

 

Bob Rickard

 

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