X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:24:01 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [198.64.152.110] (HELO sdc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5022569 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:37:51 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.64.152.110; envelope-from=ronald@sdc.com Received: from [192.168.1.105] [65.34.201.109] by sdc.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.5) id 84940008134e40b8; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:28:09 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.0.101115 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:37:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: AM Safe airbag seat belts From: RONALD STEVENS X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: AM Safe airbag seat belts In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3391072635_1898529" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3391072635_1898529 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, yes 3" is not a lot to work with, I guess that is why the Cirrus ha= s those uncomfortable seats installed (they have a high impact seat with little cushion) The plane for an upside down is to have the regress hammer somewhere in the cockpit (cirrus has them in their middle console), then hit the four corner= s of the window and hope it will crack and kick out the window. -- Ronald From: Colyn Case Reply-To: Lancair Mailing List Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:16:55 -0400 To: Subject: [LML] Re: AM Safe airbag seat belts I have them. I have not crashed yet so can't report on their effectiveness. I would expect them to be helpful in a hi-G forward deceleration which woul= d not involve the engine coming through the firewall. That would not help you in a spin or a pancake. In the latter remember that your butt is about 3" above a very solid spar box which is connected rather securely to the ground. Also, you need a plan if you land upside down and you manage to survive or for some reason your door won't open. On Jun 16, 2011, at 7:24 AM, RONALD STEVENS wrote: > Hello.=8A.me again >=20 > I was reading upon accidents with the Lancair 4p and a few stand out to m= e, > those where the cabin was intact but the pilot died. >=20 > So I am reasoning that the energy on impact was just to great to be absor= bed > and that this was killing the pilot. Now there are Seatbelt airbag now > available (AMSAFE), they have them standard in the Cirrus and if I am not > mistaken in all new Corvallis as well. >=20 > Does anybody from you installed them and what were your experiences? >=20 > Thanks =8B Ronald >=20 > Ps if I am writing with a lot of mistakes, that's because I am dutch, liv= ed in > Switzerland, Costa Rica (so Dutch, English, German and Spanish lol) --B_3391072635_1898529 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks, yes 3" is not a lot = to work with, I guess that is why the Cirrus has those uncomfortable seats i= nstalled (they have a high impact seat with little cushion)

The plane for an upside down is to have the regress hammer somewher= e in the cockpit (cirrus has them in their middle console), then hit the fou= r corners of the window and hope it will crack and kick out the window. = ;

-- Ronald

From: Colyn Case <colyncase@earthlink.net>
Reply-T= o: Lancair Mailing List <l= ml@lancaironline.net>
Date: = Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:16:55 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net><= br>Subject: [LML] Re: AM Safe airbag = seat belts

I have the= m. I have not crashed yet so can't report on their effectiveness.I would expect them to be helpful in a hi-G forward deceleration which woul= d not involve the engine coming through the firewall.

That would n= ot help you in a spin or a pancake. In the latter remember that your = butt is about 3" above a very solid spar box

which is connec= ted rather securely to the ground.

Also, you need a= plan if you land upside down and you manage to survive or for some reason y= our door won't open.

On Jun 16, 2011, at 7:24 AM, RO= NALD STEVENS wrote:

Hello.….me again

<= /div>
I was reading upon accidents with the Lancair 4p and a few stand o= ut to me, those where the cabin was intact but the pilot died.
So I am reasoning that the energy on impact was just to great to= be absorbed and that this was killing the pilot. Now there are Seatbelt air= bag now available (AMSAFE), they have them standard in the Cirrus and if I a= m not mistaken in all new Corvallis as well.

Does a= nybody from you installed them and what were your experiences?
Thanks — Ronald

Ps if I am writin= g with a lot of mistakes, that's because I am dutch, lived in Switzerland, C= osta Rica (so Dutch, English, German and Spanish lol)

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