X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:52:22 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.190] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with SMTP id 5016440 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:55:25 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.190; envelope-from=anpfield@sbcglobal.net Received: from [98.139.44.107] by nm28.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2011 13:54:52 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.82] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2011 13:54:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2011 13:54:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 5996.76593.bm@omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 12323 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2011 13:54:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=thQLt/u659woJADI9YNrMoe6/BFPRq5A/RXUczc0e/VwhZfae5LDNvfvGdgROPaIP9BKrnDIB2xwsqpUkFb6KfHx0so3O1h7aRsOAC5KbI3SocOnZaaw9E3+xcaahwCCHqvqabu1q8uimQfSVhYrSuYoq11jaz8Rdf/NlyAOvGw= ; Received: from PBFlaptop (anpfield@67.8.159.36 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2011 06:54:50 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: M2dqCgKswBDQjE8MoF8jSmCdTsUI2v7j63ZxcFoNP0Q8o1U- X-YMail-OSG: Sb0y62gVM1lozltWj2Nyr1Zc.yzpIor8nCU88xzSmd64_Tl AmvIlb6K42UwMwq0CRfWearUoURTikScDpelR3KFMq2.h3gF5lREge4lQNPY F375Iuul_2K1mKv3NrCHvbZnwekG.T680j9MOZXABsf.gAcbftgx9PESPfVx 2cXDxBAsACXUdH3o14yARflKBKDc8Z6h8Y64TYFVO7ctSgvd20O7lZ2X8oP3 .7t0QJRgKoDJzakzHx6Q2meoU3ULgNEQ1LQSWJJINDmQQtZJdFhbBjiiDt.E oPONYDXsIeeIXB7Wb1QFZBk6MVH3N3oS4gVsk3JRHw.WKQ0XodH41Jg_sQ8m XSBlxPDvKvFcU.6jY2hFuMhf4Lj6o1is64e8jbHgYXfUeQpw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Peter Field" X-Original-To: References: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: N Numbers X-Original-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:54:49 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01CC274C.0FAD86D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcwncrLrLekqU0HDSzun5BsIrmQq1AAAHHDg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01CC274C.0FAD86D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Angier: At my FAA inspection I had 3" black numbers which the inspector showed me were inappropriate for a 180 kt cruising airplane. I knew this but did not want to put 12" numbers on the narrow waisted LNC2. So I proposed 4" letters which fit my stripe. The inspector said write me a request for exception and I'll see if I can get it approved. I did, the request was approved, and I have an FAA letter to prove it. Size is the only requirement they are concerned about. Unless, you are obviously trying to hide your numbers with something like a very light gray on a white fuselage I don't believe anyone will say anything. Pete Field LNC2 St. Louis -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Greenbacks, UnLtd Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 2:13 PM To: lml@lancaironline.netd Subject: [LML] Re: N Numbers FAR 45.23, 25, 27 & 29 seem to cover all aspects of size and location of marks, etc. But I can't find any reference requiring a particular color contrast between the airframe color and the mark color. Do the N Numbers need to be visible/distinguishable from a certain minimum distance? Black marks on a white airframe might be most visible from a distance compared to light cream colored marks on a white airframe. I plan to have pretty basic contrasting N Numbers on 4ZQ for the inspection but what about down the road when I get a bit more creative? I wonder if any color combinations have actually been rejected by FAA. Angier Ames N4ZQ -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01CC274C.0FAD86D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Angier:

     At my FAA inspection I had 3" = black numbers which the inspector showed me were inappropriate for a 180 kt cruising airplane. I knew this but did not want to put 12” numbers on the = narrow waisted LNC2.  So I proposed 4” letters which fit my = stripe.  The inspector said write me a request for exception and I’ll see = if I can get it approved.  I did, the request was approved, and I have an = FAA letter to prove it.  Size is the only requirement they are = concerned about. Unless, you are obviously trying to hide your numbers with something = like a very light gray on a white fuselage I don’t believe anyone will = say anything.

 

Pete Field

LNC2

St. Louis =  

 

 

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From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of

Greenbacks, UnLtd

Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 2:13 = PM

To: lml@lancaironline.netd =

Subject: [LML] Re: N Numbers

 

FAR 45.23, 25, 27 & 29 seem to cover all aspects of size and location of

marks, etc.

 

But I can't find any reference requiring a particular color = contrast between

the airframe color and the mark color. Do the N Numbers need to = be

visible/distinguishable from a certain minimum distance? Black = marks on a

white airframe might be most visible from a distance compared to = light cream

colored marks on a white airframe.

 

I plan to have pretty basic contrasting N Numbers on 4ZQ for the inspection

but what about down the road when I get a bit more creative? I = wonder if any

color combinations have actually been rejected by = FAA.

 

Angier Ames

N4ZQ

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