Return-Path: Received: from [144.54.3.2] (HELO picker.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.3) with ESMTP id 734274 for lancair.list@logan.com; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:54:25 -0400 Received: from by picker.com (CommuniGate Pro RULES 3.3b1) with RULES id 3618375; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:54:22 -0400 X-Autogenerated: Mirror X-Mirrored-by: Received: from [144.54.37.11] (HELO ct.picker.com) by picker.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3b1) with ESMTP id 3618374 for rob@med.marconi.com; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:54:21 -0400 Received: from picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.3.2]) by ct.picker.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA03739 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:54:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by picker.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3b1) with ESMTP id 3618370 for rob@ct.picker.com; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:54:17 -0400 Received: from pop401-leg.mail.com ([165.251.8.32]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71175U5500L550S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:45:35 -0400 Received: from earthling.net (muedi4-145-253-166-004.arcor-ip.net [145.253.166.4]) by pop401-leg.mail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BA150655 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Sender: kai@pop401-leg.mail.com Message-ID: <3ACCF6A5.8D2E8CC5@earthling.net> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 23:50:13 +0100 From: Kai Leibrandt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Subject: Re: follow-up on Cimmins aero diesel References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> "Hapgood, Matt" wrote: > okay. I was fooled. I kept thinking, doesn't that engine weigh more than > the entire useful load of the plane??? > > M > > > Reference AvWeb site for original story: > > > > http://www.avweb.com/newswire/avfool01.html#4 Hi all, just want to say hello and thanks to all here who contribute. I am only in the phase of deciding whether and when to start building a Legacy, but all the information available here is a really great source of confidence that it CAN be done... Anyway, let me get to what I really wanted to say... I too laughed about the diesel mentioned above, but there is actually an aero-diesel under development in Europe... I'm sure there are similar experiments in the US as well, but the engine I talk about (the TAE 110) just got it's JAA certification. It's a straight 4, 1.7 Liter direct injection diesel, turbocharged, fully digital single stick FADEC & prop. Even though it only delivers a nominal 125HP, it compares extremely well with an IO-320; it is being tested in a Taifun with a Muehlbauer constant speed prop and delivers 237Kg push at standstill, compared to 210Kg from a PA-28-161... As it's turbo-charged, it compares even better at altitude to the non-normalized IO-320 (what a surprise, I know...). Before anyone asks; it weighs 184Kg firewall-forward, which is a few pounds less than the Lycoming unit. For me this unit or one of it's successors might be very interesting because of all this, plus it will run on auto-diesel and kerosine, and uses a lot less of it too (in some instances only 1/3 of the IO-320 FF). Sure, this is partly due to a CS prop, but nonetheless there is some real progress being made. TBO will likely be 3000 Hrs, although it apparently will be more of a TBR. The company developing this unit is called Thielert Aircraft Engines in Liechtenstein/Europe. Anyone in Europe should get a look at the current (April) issue of the german Aerokurier Magazine for more details, or just come to AERO at Friedrichshafen/Germany at the end of this month... Cheerio, Kai. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>