Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com ([216.33.149.18]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70783U4500L450S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:01:34 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 06:10:17 -0800 Received: from 172.132.208.39 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:10:17 GMT Reply-To: Sky2high@aol.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: "Scott Krueger" To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Subject: LNC2 Hartzell Prop, torque, safety wire tip, spinner back plate info Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:10:17 -0600 Message-ID: X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> For direct replies, use Sky2high@aol.com LNC2's with a Hartzell prop probably have drilled prop mount bolts with a nut that is fixed to the bolt with a roll pin. These bolts are buried in a depression which limits access for tightening and makes safetying hell. Because of certain experimental piloting techniques and blind taxiing, I am on hub #2, blades 5 and 6. From my experience I can relate the following: 1. A standard Craftsman crowsfoot is not strong enough and will destroy the "nut" over time. Get a hi quality Snap-On crows foot or be dumb like me and buy the special crowsfoot from Hartzell for $300, or see your local mechanic for help. 2. A prop mechanic showed me his technique for safetying: After torqueing, choose the hardest nut to get the wire thru; remember its position; back it off a bit to get the wire thru; return the nut to its torqued position and safety it to an adjacent easier nut. 3. Safetying tip: After you have made the last pull on the twisting safety pliers, grab the pliers and, while twisting the pliers, describe a circular arc with the tip of the pliers (about 180 deg). This results in a nice tight wire grip at the origin. If its at the pig tail, this technique also starts a curl so that you can cut off the excess and then easily form the loop that prevents you from being cut by the sharp end. Practice this -- you will like it. After 300 hours, I have not seen any damage to the web between the bolts from the tight safety wire. Spinner back plate: 1. The back plates are slightly cupped by the manufacturing process and can be work hardened and crack in service. The doubler plates should be installed and the rivets should be bucked, not squeezed. Note: I had the outside squeezed rivets shear after some use and a prop mechanic said bucked rivets are less likely to fail. Since he bucked in all the rivets, I have not had a failure. 2. Remember that the back plate mounting nuts are to be torqued to only 22 ft. lbs. This is important. 3. Hartzell uses silicon to seal joints. The bolts that are replaced by longer bolts to mount the spinner back plate are devils to work with because of the tight fit and silicon squeeze out in the holes. I don't have a good suggestion here. I lubricated the bolts and holes and hammered them in. Scott Krueger LNC2 - N92EX >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>