Return-Path: Received: from imo-r05.mail.aol.com ([152.163.225.5]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 21:12:40 -0400 Received: from CasaDeHate@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.32.) id k.bc.c1536fa (3991) for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 21:20:01 -0400 (EDT) From: CasaDeHate@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 21:20:01 EDT Subject: Flap asymetry To: lancair.list@olsusa.com X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Dan: Glad to hear you telling the story vs an NTSB report. For everyone's benefit, I had the misfortune (?) of flying right seat in a 235 years ago to give a gent some recurrent time in his airplane since he hadn't flown for several months (after bending the nose strut on a porpoised landing). There were no rudder pedals in the right seat. After a few landings he was doing well, untill he said someting like " I can't hold it, you've got it" and all hell broke loose. We were on downwind leg, and I found myself holding full left aileron to keep the airplane somewhat level. I kept telling him what to do with the rudders to help, which was mostly cross-controlling to counter whatever caused the problem. I looked out quickly and all I could see was that the ailerons were attached and at full deflection and minimum flaps were down ( right side only, the left is not visible from the right seat). We were able to declare the big "E" and skid the airplane to final where we were able to find the runway, and made several attempts to land before getting everything aligned and planted it on the runway edge, all with full aileron deflection against the roll. All this happened within the span of maybe 45 seconds. Post flight inspection revealed that when he deployed the flaps, the right flap hung up on a screw head, that was holding an end plate, fixed on the wing fillet. The left flap (the one I couldn't see) was down approximately 1/2 travel. I wasn't watching everything he was doing , and didn't have time to analyze what caused the assymetry. When he gave me the airplane we were already in trouble. Had either of us realized the cause, we could have easily raised the flaps and continued uneventfully to the hangar and discussed the down side of having a control surface passing through anything that can jamb it. Lower, slower or more flap travel on the left side would have resulted in us being in the NTSB files, no question about it. I'm glad this incident happened with Dan, because he was smart enough to realize that something wasn't normal and stopped immediately to analyze the feeling. Would you have reacted the same ??? When was the last time you really looked at all those wiggly things on the airplane and thought about losing control of one ??? Mike DeHate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>