Return-Path: Received: from www08.netaddress.usa.net ([204.68.24.28]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-44819U2500L250S0) with SMTP id AAA25264 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:15:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 24690 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Oct 1998 23:15:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19981005231512.24689.qmail@www08.netaddress.usa.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 23:15:12 From: Dan Schaefer To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Subject: Nav Aids, crimp vs solder, cables X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Stu Seffern asked about anyone using a Nav Aids autopilot in a 360. Both Jim Gates and I have them installed in our 235's. My plane runs a Lyc 235 and and Jim is running a 320. These a/p's are working fine in both of our aircraft for several years. I find it a necessity, at least to have it in the wing-leveler mode when I'm solo and need to look at a chart or airport book. Both of us have installed a switch and wiring to allow coupling to either the VOR or GPS. We both are using a KLX 135A GPS/Com, though we have different types of VOR receivers. The Nav Aid seems to track both VOR brands reasonably well (mine's a King KX 155 and Jim's is a Narco unit). I rode to and from the Redmond bash in Jim's plane and he had the Nav Aids coupled to the GPS almost all the way and it sure seemed to track just fine. There is a noticeable difference if the way the a/p reacts in tracking the VOR vs GPS course signal, due to the way the output is developed (variable vs constant course-width) but the a/p tracks either with the main difference seeming to be in how far off the course center-line it settles down. To me, it's not an issue. To the best of my recollection, both of our units worked right out of the box. The only difficulty either of us had was deciding how to install the servo unit - but that shouldn't affect whether the unit works or not. Unfortunately, the original owner of the company was killed in an airplane crash soon after I bought my unit but I have the name and contact information I think is current for the folks who are taking care of Nav Aid units. It is: Navaid Devices, Inc. Richard Ray, President 641 North Market Street Chattanooga, TN 37405 Phone: (423) 267-3311 FAX: (423) 756-6154 email: rdray@mindspring.com If you're having problems, try Mr. Ray. On the soldered vs crimped wires discussion and the pro's 'n con's. Whether you solder or crimp, remember that either way, there is always a point of transition from rigidity to flexibility (the end of the terminal barrel or the end of the solder) where vibration-created bending can be concentrated. In either case, one must do something to eliminate that flexure, or spread it over some length of wire, in order to stop the stresses from being concentrated. Shrink tube is one good way to do this as long as it extends some way on either side of the transition point, and as long as it sized so that it firmly grips the material on both sides. (Polyolefin shrink-tube is pretty good for this, in my opinion - if things behind your panel get hot enough to soften it up significantly, you've got bigger problems than eventual failure of some of your wiring!) The follow-on to this, then, is what else in the terminating process can cause failure? I tend to agree with the comments about the possibility of soldering creating possible corrosion - so as long as you eliminate the cause of vibration induced failure, why not crimp? I also agree (once again) with John Cooper regarding the fields surrounding the battery cables. Keeping them together if you can is really the best but twisting a couple of #4 (or worse, #2) cables is kind of impractical. And the magnetic fields created during engine start are, of course, only present during....all together now..... starting! It's still best to keep them as far from the stuff like compasses though, since at least the ground cable is most likely going to be carrying the full load alternator output return current. Depending on your airplane, and it's nominal electrical load, not counting battery recharge current, that could be anything up to the full capacity of your alternator flowing back as far as the point where the panel loads are taken off - like the distribution bus-bar if you're using that method. So the there will be a magnetic steady-state field associated with at least the front half of the ground cable all the time. In all this talk about wire failure, here's a tip taken directly from the Air Force imposed requirements for wiring critical systems (at least on the airpoanes I've been associated with. Use redundant wiring. For instance, where you might normally run a #10 wire (for instance) from your alternator output, use two parallel wires of about half the size, each with it's own terminal lugs, and etc. I did this for my alternator output and I found it gave me a bonus of being easier to install. (Wire cross-sectional area doubles (or halves) for a change of three wire sizes, i.e., #10 has about 10,400 circular mil (cm) area while #13 has half that, at about 5,200 cm.) Cheers, Dan Schaefer ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1